Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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The problem is the company is leaving no wiggle room for the, what if. You know as well as I do, that Murphy's Law seems to apply to aviation on a daily basis. How about the numerous times you are asked to turn 30 right for spacing. I have flown into BOS on a clear day and been told to hold over Norwich when I can see the airport 50 miles ahead. Slow as much as practical as Atlanta is switching airport configuration. I could go on and on. The real issue is if you over block that first leg by the small buffer, your done!
The problem is the company is leaving no wiggle room for the, what if. You know as well as I do, that Murphy's Law seems to apply to aviation on a daily basis. How about the numerous times you are asked to turn 30 right for spacing. I have flown into BOS on a clear day and been told to hold over Norwich when I can see the airport 50 miles ahead. Slow as much as practical as Atlanta is switching airport configuration. I could go on and on. The real issue is if you over block that first leg by the small buffer, your done!
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Just a week ago, I was rerouted right at push back on last leg. Last leg of 2 day, SLC based they rerouted me to MEM INTO MY VACATION DAY. Then the next day, sent me to LAS before SLC.
Although at the time I was extremely ****ed, my 10 hour 2 day turned into 30.
I have the same feeling, we have a contract that no one follows. I quoted all the sections about why if was illegal, no one cared.
ALPA rep says it happens nearly everyday.
Although at the time I was extremely ****ed, my 10 hour 2 day turned into 30.
I have the same feeling, we have a contract that no one follows. I quoted all the sections about why if was illegal, no one cared.
ALPA rep says it happens nearly everyday.
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And just something else to add on here... for those of you that are hard over about no overtime flying with guys on furlough, when we negotiate the next section 6, I suggest that we put in a clause that says GSs and IAs with guys on furlough pay straight rates.
Fire away.
Fire away.
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is it (10% of 2.5 Billion) + (20% of .1Billion)?
Or 20% of 2.6 Billion?
250 mil + 20 mil = 270 mil
or 520 million????
That's a big difference.
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However you want to do it. All I am saying is that when this comes up there is always a backlash against senior guys flying greenslips, yet nobody ever says anything about the cellar dweller that answers his phone and flies IAs to the tune of a hundred fifty hours pay... And to set the record straight, I am a bottom feeder in my category and prolly will be for a long time.....
For example, a "G" means a green slip. If the pilot getting the GS is a regular lineholder, it is fairly straightforward. He is working on his otherwise days off, permanently solves the company's critical staffing need, gets compensated double pay for it, end of story.
However, if the pilot is on reserve (see ATL 320A) the ramifications for the company are completely different. He is flying a GS on his reserve days off, and gets paid for the trip flown above the reserve guarantee...AND gets the days off paid back! He has not permanently solved anything for the company (and good on him), just their problem that day. But since due to the x-day payback he will no longer be available to them on the days he otherwise would have been, now they have yet another problem to solve a few days later.
A reserve GS, though coded "G" in the DBMS daily trip coverage, functions far more like a green slip with conflict (GSWC, coded "C" in daily trip coverage) than a straight green slip. In fact, I have always wondered why the DBMS trip coverage designator wasn't a different letter for GS flown by reserves vice regulars.
Why would you ever do that? It would encourage the company to furlough at least a few pilots any chance they had. They will always get the trips covered. Timbo can attest to the fact that even when undermanned far worse then any pilot hired after 91 has ever seen they will get the trips covered. Double pay is a huge incentive for the company to staff the airline properly. Give it up and we will forever be understaffed.
I'm just saying that whenever there are furloughs, there is always an uproar against senior guys flying GSs while junior guys are flying IAs. IOW, senior guys are being pressured into foregoing their contractual rights while the junior guys take advantage of it. I couldn't care less either way frankly, but I get sick of hearing how the senior guys are keeping furloughees on the street when junior guys are every bit as "responsible".
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With the new 117 flight time limits such as 1000 is 365 and 100 in 672 I really think we need to make the 7 SC rolling as well. I hate getting 3-4 in the last week or two of the month only to be hit with another 3 in the first week of the next month.
I do realize there are only 7 SCs in a month if the RSV Guarantee is 75 and over.
I do realize there are only 7 SCs in a month if the RSV Guarantee is 75 and over.
Could someone verify the DAL company contribution to 401k? I see on the APC profile page that it is 2%. I have a few buddies at DAL and thought one of them told me that it was around 13%
Just curious. Thx!
Just curious. Thx!
Part of the problem with pilots having this attitude versus that regarding overtime flying is the unclear coding and ramifications in DBMS.
For example, a "G" means a green slip. If the pilot getting the GS is a regular lineholder, it is fairly straightforward. He is working on his otherwise days off, permanently solves the company's critical staffing need, gets compensated double pay for it, end of story.
However, if the pilot is on reserve (see ATL 320A) the ramifications for the company are completely different. He is flying a GS on his reserve days off, and gets paid for the trip flown above the reserve guarantee...AND gets the days off paid back! He has not permanently solved anything for the company (and good on him), just their problem that day. But since due to the x-day payback he will no longer be available to them on the days he otherwise would have been, now they have yet another problem to solve a few days later.
A reserve GS, though coded "G" in the DBMS daily trip coverage, functions far more like a green slip with conflict (GSWC, coded "C" in daily trip coverage) than a straight green slip. In fact, I have always wondered why the DBMS trip coverage designator wasn't a different letter for GS flown by reserves vice regulars.
For example, a "G" means a green slip. If the pilot getting the GS is a regular lineholder, it is fairly straightforward. He is working on his otherwise days off, permanently solves the company's critical staffing need, gets compensated double pay for it, end of story.
However, if the pilot is on reserve (see ATL 320A) the ramifications for the company are completely different. He is flying a GS on his reserve days off, and gets paid for the trip flown above the reserve guarantee...AND gets the days off paid back! He has not permanently solved anything for the company (and good on him), just their problem that day. But since due to the x-day payback he will no longer be available to them on the days he otherwise would have been, now they have yet another problem to solve a few days later.
A reserve GS, though coded "G" in the DBMS daily trip coverage, functions far more like a green slip with conflict (GSWC, coded "C" in daily trip coverage) than a straight green slip. In fact, I have always wondered why the DBMS trip coverage designator wasn't a different letter for GS flown by reserves vice regulars.
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