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Old 12-10-2013 | 04:06 PM
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Deahhead, Way, way back in the day... Ron Allen (the less gifted RA) refused to hire and the 727 SO position was flogged worse than the skinny guy in the slave galley. Guys were assigned trips enroute, in the jetway, at the bottom of the airstairs as they tried to escape and in the employee parking lot. I do not exaggerate (although I'm the parking lot thing didn't happen too much.) The bow wave these guys amassed was huge and eventually screwed away by ALPA in a side letter/agreement. (Bow wave was where your time went over 70hrs.) There might be a very few guys left that experienced that but I would guess most are retired or dead.
Old 12-10-2013 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CheapTrick
Deahhead, Way, way back in the day... Ron Allen (the less gifted RA) refused to hire and the 727 SO position was flogged worse than the skinny guy in the slave galley. Guys were assigned trips enroute, in the jetway, at the bottom of the airstairs as they tried to escape and in the employee parking lot. I do not exaggerate (although I'm the parking lot thing didn't happen too much.) The bow wave these guys amassed was huge and eventually screwed away by ALPA in a side letter/agreement. (Bow wave was where your time went over 70hrs.) There might be a very few guys left that experienced that but I would guess most are retired or dead.
Well... this seemed to fit.

Old 12-10-2013 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Hey I admit it. I am an anachronism. My phone is paid for and I use a service that I pay for by the minute. I RARELY use more than about $10/month. I would like to delve into the smartphone world, but the contracts and monthly cost blow me away... I can make a slip payment for my sailboat (which I don't have either).

What's a sandy phone? handy??
I like not having a smart phone. I used to do it strictly because of the additional cost, but now I also enjoy feeling like the last "real person" in many places. Restaurants, airports, bars, wherever. It's enough that somebody can text me if I have my phone -- the last thing I need is to be expected to see an e-mail on the same device.

I'm gonna see how many more years I can go without it.
Old 12-10-2013 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK
In all seriousness, this guy could be the DPA slayer. Impressive to say the least.
Not bias either way, but from never hearing of the guy to DPA slayer, now that is quite a jump.
Old 12-10-2013 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Hey I admit it. I am an anachronism. My phone is paid for and I use a service that I pay for by the minute. I RARELY use more than about $10/month. I would like to delve into the smartphone world, but the contracts and monthly cost blow me away... I can make a slip payment for my sailboat (which I don't have either).

What's a sandy phone? handy??
Do you still use AOL for your internet connection?
Old 12-10-2013 | 05:00 PM
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[QUOTEThere might be a very few guys left that experienced that but I would guess most are retired or dead.

Over to you, Timbo

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Old 12-10-2013 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CheapTrick
Deahhead, Way, way back in the day... Ron Allen (the less gifted RA) refused to hire and the 727 SO position was flogged worse than the skinny guy in the slave galley. Guys were assigned trips enroute, in the jetway, at the bottom of the airstairs as they tried to escape and in the employee parking lot. I do not exaggerate (although I'm the parking lot thing didn't happen too much.) The bow wave these guys amassed was huge and eventually screwed away by ALPA in a side letter/agreement. (Bow wave was where your time went over 70hrs.) There might be a very few guys left that experienced that but I would guess most are retired or dead.
Back in the day, I was at Roscoe's, the restaurant over at the MAT. We were just starting to furlough. This LCA is telling me and my soon to be furloughed FO how he was assigned a green slip and he had to take it because he made the mistake of answering his phone.

I'm thinking to myself, you didn't try very hard, you wanted it and were just using answering your phone as an excuse.

It's the same with jet bridge assignments. I've gotten out of multiple jet bridge assignments. All you have to say is either you don't have child care or you are fatigued. You can come up with other good reasons. However, I wouldn't use I just had drink If a guy takes it, he can complain all he wants. But, deep down, he really wanted it.
Old 12-10-2013 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Do you still use AOL for your internet connection?
I was in a restaurant the other day and heard, "You've got mail!" I looked around in astonishment thinking I would see the, "Where's the beef?" lady.

My wife was watching a 20-something TV show and they made a joke about seeing someone with a flip-phone. They thought the owner must have been a "time-traveler."
Old 12-10-2013 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Back in the day, I was at Roscoe's, the restaurant over at the MAT. We were just starting to furlough. This LCA is telling me and my soon to be furloughed FO how he was assigned a green slip and he had to take it because he made the mistake of answering his phone.

I'm thinking to myself, you didn't try very hard, you wanted it and were just using answering your phone as an excuse.

It's the same with jet bridge assignments. I've gotten out of multiple jet bridge assignments. All you have to say is either you don't have child care or you are fatigued. You can come up with other good reasons. However, I wouldn't use I just had drink If a guy takes it, he can complain all he wants. But, deep down, he really wanted it.
Regarding IAs, your last statement is complete crap. IF the company is bound and determined to give you tag on flying after you finish a trip, (which by default would be an IA) there would be certain circumstances where you couldn't refuse, and there would not be any hint of "deep down he really wanted it."

As for green slips, which are voluntary by definition, that is a whole other thing.
Old 12-10-2013 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
I agree. This is a perfect response to Flt Ops' letter.
The MEC got it exactly right. Our contract remains unchanged.
There are long established procedures for handling "minor disputes" under the Railway Labor Act.
This issue will either be successfully negotiated or resolved via grievance.
Agreed. So far, so good.

Carl
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