Even a cursory glance at the deice truck will stop that plane and crew in CVG...

Ready, FIRE, aim! is what this is looking to be...

 

Or even the jetstream aimed just right!

 

I don't think so. The way I understand it (note the extreme caveat ) is you wouldn't have had your 10 hours Rest, with 8 hour uninterrupted sleep opportunity, prior to taking the trip. Unless I'm missing something, and it's going to change under 117, you are not on Rest when you are on long call. This is the whole reason they are trying to force a 10+ hour prior-to-report acknowledgement in the first place.

I think the <12 hour LC GS's are going to be just as illegal as a <10 hour IA, unless they can grab you between 12 and 10 hours prior, for a report that is <12 hours in the future - that's a pretty tight window.

 

Lots in LA on the 73 that exceed 8:30 next month. Lots. Gonna be some overtime and reroutes with the wx on the east coast.

 

2 red flags for me.

 

Fair enough, but the frownie faces are yours, not mine as the quote shows. I think we'll soon find out the story. 117 is looking to be a problem, and the companys aggressive exploitation will likely lead to some mayhem... I wonder if the plan is to induce operational problems then go to the courts for relief?

 

Looks like we can look forward to acars messages that read: hub adjustment speed increase, too, hair on fire speed so you don't time out. Please acknowledge IMMEDIATELY your received and update your arrival time.

This is going to be a cluster if they push flights above 830. I wonder if we will be receiving calls from the CPO to discuss why you went 20 minutes over block and forced us to cancel or delay the return flight?

 

Then absent a bald-faced lie to the company's face, I don't know how you refused a legal IA.

Don't get me wrong. I hate the idea of an IA, and I have never been IA'd. I also understand if the company meets you at the gate to IA you for the next day that you might want to burn the place down. I do remember a couple of times when the company called me at home to try and IA me, but because I am proactive and have my "ringmaster" number in DBMS, I knew why they were calling and didn't pick up. (I suppose that would be a case of I did not want it "deep down").

But if you are met at the gate, and the agent gives you a legal next-day IA, you pretty much have to take it. I realize that you may have some absolutely legit reasons to decline it, and you might win and the company looks elsewhere, but there are other instances when you don't, and you have to take it, and it has nothing to do with "deep down inside really wanting it."

In any case, jetway IAs are fairly rare, but not unheard of during certain periods of crew staffing buffoonery.

 

I know I am going to regret this...

However...

For the sake of the discussion. If you are blocked at... let's say 8:40. And it's VMC all the way across the country. Flight planned at a high Mach number. No delays on taxi out. None on taxi in. The ground crew is waiting for you and blocks you right in. Yet you are 21 minutes late.

Can you justify the reason for being that late?

 

And just something else to add on here... for those of you that are hard over about no overtime flying with guys on furlough, when we negotiate the next section 6, I suggest that we put in a clause that says GSs and IAs with guys on furlough pay straight rates.

Fire away.