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Old 03-11-2014 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
There are two things here:

1) The company has stated that they will "make every attempt to not assign" anything..... It was part of the "All Pilots Memo" in December that also outlined the requirement to acknowledge an assigned rotation ten hours prior to report.

2) The PWA requires a schedule check not before 1500 on your last non fly day but NLT 0200 on your first fly day. Its a check. Acknowledgment is different than a schedule check. Here is what the PWA/SRH states:

So I check my schedule at 1501 the day prior to my first on-call day. I see a trip with an early report that I don't like. I don't acknowledge it. I then log back in sometime within my 10 hours of rest (and prior to 3 hours from sign in) to acknowledge it...and am no longer legal to fly it.

Is it really possible under the PWA to check one's schedule without acknowledging it? I gotta think it's tough to answer the mail on that when the CPO calls.

When I'm on reserve, I'll just keep on setting my alarm for 0155 to check my schedule, until the LOA is done. Gives the negotiators some leverage.
Old 03-11-2014 | 12:55 PM
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edit: disregard C12 rant
Old 03-11-2014 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
disregard--just a C2012 rant
Yep, like this month for us in SLC. Almost halfway to 7 after tomorrow.
Old 03-11-2014 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Pilots used to waive the duty time limits in the contract all the time. Usually when coming home from a international trip.
I don't know about that, but before our bankruptcy a bunch of pilots volunteered to take a 5% pay cut to "help" the company out. ALPA said no, you can't do that. Made the company pay it all back. I don't think you can change or waive any part of the PWA unilaterally.


Of course you can get away with anything until someone complains about it.
Old 03-11-2014 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
They had this concern ...
While we are throwing the speculative mud at the wall, I was wondering what single point failure could take out ACARS and the radios ... the BPCU.

All modern jets have them, have to. Their failure has rendered a 747, a 787 and other types completely unpowered. My concerns aren't for the 777, but the 787 where truly immense levels of electrical power go through a computer controlled box of mechanical relays.

A dark jet, no nav capability, turn towards land ... been there myself.
Old 03-11-2014 | 01:07 PM
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Darn. Moved backwards one spot. Just when u get your hopes up for some advancement reality hits again. Even with a bunch of 7er slots avail still sliding backwards on the 73. Otoh it looks like furlough bypass recalls bidding into cat from their assigned base... so if they had been able to just participate in an ae when recalled (like they should have been able to in a smart world) they would have been there a month ago anyways.
So.... I guess I could look at it as I got an extra month before sliding backwards--sweet!

But really, not sliding backwards would be so awesome someday!
Old 03-11-2014 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
While we are throwing the speculative mud at the wall, I was wondering what single point failure could take out ACARS and the radios ... the BPCU.

All modern jets have them, have to. Their failure has rendered a 747, a 787 and other types completely unpowered. My concerns aren't for the 777, but the 787 where truly immense levels of electrical power go through a computer controlled box of mechanical relays.

A dark jet, no nav capability, turn towards land ... been there myself.
Or a fire, lithium batteries, etc. and it was dark, about 1:48 am local, over water, no horizon, no instruments, maybe they flew it into the water near that little island?
Old 03-11-2014 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
In effect if you always check your sked at 0000 on your first RSV day you are in compliance.
Amen. You will comply both with 117 and the PWA.
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
I flew a trip with a two digit FA last month that was hired the same month I was born...almost 50 years ago.
See if you can get my engagement ring back...
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
And the F/A's I get to fly to Dubai with could all be MY MOM!

I'm sure they were all just as hot when they were new hires, but that was in 1965!
1965....... Ah yes, spectator pumps, white gloves, and...YAK! girdles.... Like Ft. Knox.
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