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Check Essential 03-21-2014 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by LOBO (Post 1606974)
I scoff the Scheduling Alert 14-04 that came out today.

If I have two X Days and I want to move one I can't because the computer doesn't think we have at least 30 hours off.

One X day = 24 hours

Plus (+)

The 12 hours from the first day of work that they can't call me for.

= A minimum of 36 hours.

What am I not getting?

You are on long call for those 12 hours. That is duty.

Of course, under the document we all thought was a contract, you could have checked your schedule the last non-fly day any time after 1500.
Which brings me back to my greatest source of recent irritation. (I need some Gold Bond I guess) --> DALPA is allowing the pilot group to think that Steve Dickson's memo is the new contract.
Our union is failing in its most fundamental duty. To defend our contract. This situation has gone on way too long. The MEC should be embarrassed and ashamed. Either start raising hell and file a grievance or just make it official --> management can re-write our contract any time they want and DALPA will do nothing about it.

edit: oops. I see sailingfun already answered the 30 hour rest question.

Mem9guy 03-21-2014 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by LOBO (Post 1606974)
I scoff the Scheduling Alert 14-04 that came out today.

If I have two X Days and I want to move one I can't because the computer doesn't think we have at least 30 hours off.

One X day = 24 hours

Plus (+)

The 12 hours from the first day of work that they can't call me for.

= A minimum of 36 hours.

What am I not getting?

To me, it is rediculous that we are more restricted than PBS when we try to move X days. I should be able to do the same things to my schedule that PBS could have awarded in the first place. PBS can put all 17 or 18 days in a row if it wants to...

sailingfun 03-21-2014 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Mem9guy (Post 1607102)
To me, it is rediculous that we are more restricted than PBS when we try to move X days. I should be able to do the same things to my schedule that PBS could have awarded in the first place. PBS can put all 17 or 18 days in a row if it wants to...

Guys would game that to the max. I can see ways to insure you were never available for a trip longer then 2 days.

DogWhisperer 03-21-2014 06:34 AM

Hmmmmmmm…….

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MrBojangles 03-21-2014 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1607092)
You are on long call for those 12 hours. That is duty.

Of course, under the document we all thought was a contract, you could have checked your schedule the last non-fly day any time after 1500.
Which brings me back to my greatest source of recent irritation. (I need some Gold Bond I guess) --> DALPA is allowing the pilot group to think that Steve Dickson's memo is the new contract.
Our union is failing in its most fundamental duty. To defend our contract. This situation has gone on way too long. The MEC should be embarrassed and ashamed. Either start raising hell and file a grievance or just make it official --> management can re-write our contract any time they want and DALPA will do nothing about it.

edit: oops. I see sailingfun already answered the 30 hour rest question.

Well said! They had a lonnnnng time to settle this before the new FAR even went into effect. And now you don't hear too much about it, so it's really like the company has won that battle. Is there any progress? New news? What are we waiting for?

Launchpad475 03-21-2014 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1606896)
Ahhhhh, what if Airbus comes out with a A-330 NEO? Any bets on that?:)

Denny

heard that too... RA wants them to re-engine the 330.

-Wants to untangle MORE from Alaska
-Shrinking 320 lav and galley for more seats
-Adding screens to the seats in 319 for long thin routes (south america I guess?)
-350/787 RFP

-AA could turn out to be a threat in the future, UAL spending is WAY high compared to profits, beating SWA out of ATL and not a threat.

just regurgitating what I heard.

flyallnite 03-21-2014 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Launchpad475 (Post 1607140)
heard that too... RA wants them to re-engine the 330.

-Wants to untangle MORE from Alaska
-Shrinking 320 lav and galley for more seats
-Adding screens to the seats in 319 for long thin routes (south america I guess?)
-350/787 RFP

-AA could turn out to be a threat in the future, UAL spending is WAY high compared to profits, beating SWA out of ATL and not a threat.

just regurgitating what I heard.

RA needs an airplane that he can overfly Narita with. A re engined 330 isn't the best solution for that. It is a good solution for a 767 replacement. I'm sure any 777's that get added to the order books would be straight replacements for the 747. I'd be surprised if Airbus goes ahead with a 330neo, given the investment in the 350 and the potential for cannibalising those orders

Boomer 03-21-2014 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1606123)

Is this a teaser for the new season of Firefly? Mal needs his brown coat.

Looks pretty sweet.

Boomer 03-21-2014 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1606765)
Not to be outdone by Hannity and General Numbnuts on Fox, CNN ups the ante on the idiocy with regard to MH370:


Mary the expert states that it can't be a black hole, since "even a small black hole would swallow up our whole universe"

As the universe is still here, Mary has scientifically proven that black holes (even small ones) do not exist.

This just became much bigger than one missing airplane.

Denny Crane 03-21-2014 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1606994)
Can someone point me to what the Minimum Base Layover amount is? I think that's what it's called-- I'm looking for the minimum amount of time between end of one trip and start of another (release to report), for both the initial PBS bidding and for the PCS.

I got a denial reason of "minimum base layover" for 11 hours ish... I searched the contract, PCS handbook, and PBS gouge for that phrase and got nothing.

I found in PWA 12G (hours of service) this:
10. For purposes of line construction only, a pilot will be scheduled for a break-in-duty at
4 base of at least:
5 a. 11 hours following a duty period that does not include an ocean crossing.

6 b. 18 hours following a duty period that includes an ocean crossing (subject to
7 Section 23 M. 8.).

Which makes me think 11 hours from release to report should be good--but I got denied a WS with 11.12. Is there some new buffer applied now, and if so what?
Can anyone give me the required time, and point me to the source in our documents? Thanks!

Don't know for sure but wouldn't be surprised if the Company added a 30 minute buffer to your quoted time for white slips.

Denny


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