Thanks,Flamer, Newk, and BB, I'll call them right now.

There's still gross weight limits, which in that case could only be reduced by the amount of reduced pax, which in most cases still works as a bulwark. IOW they can't put 76 seats in a 777 (or 767 or 717 or E190, etc) and call it good. To any extent an E175 does this, that was always the intent from the beginning.

I'm hoping for a DCI collapse though, and when/if it happens, I want and expect the circle to close in on permitted outsourcing. Ditto with the Alaska code share abuse. We're all happy about the current trends, and that's great. But we're one other airline CEO decision away from going back to the way it used to be. Both issues are worth securing, even at a reasonable cost, because this industry is incredibly cyclical, and failing to lock in today's gains is tomorrow's loss.

Back to the RJ issue specifically, we can't allow any connection carrier to even have the slightest theoretical chance at anything other than a new hire position at the bottom of the list. Anything more than that leavs us wide open to the possibility of arbitration and that can't happen. I read that UAL pilot's manifesto. While she makes some points, there's a lot of hyperbole and subterfuge in there. WTH was all that "provisioning" about anyway? 757's (or the unique to all of aviation C series? lol) at a regional? That rediculous rumored concept was floated in 2011 before C2012 as a fake moronic accounting way to "get the costs off the books" but there's no talk of it now, and there wasn't much even then. Why is she making that out to be the issue of the century now as if its inevitable?

Her main point on that though, is that other labor groups need scope. They can't just ride our coat tails like leeches while trying to "me too" our gains. We don't owe any other work group that. She also lost me when she passively aggressively played the female victim card.

As for DL and 2015, I hope the woes at DCI have manifested themselves enough by TA drafting time to include significant gains for our group and our list. I'd like to include the ALPA pilots at DCI, although they already are included with bilateral and unilateral flows, interviews and our 35% quota. The best way to include them at this point is to reduce DCI and increase mainline, and do it without increasing the size, weight, capacity or amount of what DCI can fly, and hire them within existing percentages into a growing mainline fleet away from a shrinking DCI fleet at the bottom of our list. Anything else exposes us too much anyway.

Seattle / Atlanta parking question
 

Live in Washington but will be based out of Atlanta, and I'm going to have a vehicle parked on both ends. Since Delta only pays for parking at one end, what is the most cost effective way to skin this cat?

I've assumed it would be cheaper to take Delta up on the free Seattle parking, and find a hotel or someplace with a Shuttle in Atlanta. Any opinions or experience on this?

Thanks.

Not 100 percent sure what your asking. It sounds like you plan on a car in both places. You will have to pay for parking at one or the other. Some hotels in ATL used to allow parking in their lots at good rates and ride the shuttle to the airport. Check with the holiday inn north.
My advise would be to not have a car in ATL. It's not needed if you use hotels or pick a Crashpad near VA avenue. Most in that situation walk to one of the hotel shuttles and tip the driver well. The Marta gives you some decent options to get away from the airport if you have to spend a off day there.

GJ & SF,

Thanks very much for the quick replies!

The day after the TA for C2012 Delta VP Mike Campbell stated it was cost neutral.

If management were to lie to the Delta shareholders, the SEC would put them in jail just like people who commit felonies hacking websites.

When a Delta SVP says it is cost neutral, it is.

When a Delta pilot says management is just misleading the shareholders and is was really a big win for the pilots, that is nonsense.

Mike Campbell makes millions and millions at his Delta job, there is no way he would put that at risk for a second.

Let's move on.

Time to come together for a historic C2015 as promised by the MEC. Let's focus 100% on gains and ensure no pilot tries to sell us out by making further concessions on profit sharing and pay banding.

Together united 100% we will make the gains we so richly deserve.

GJ, SF or anyone,

FYI, Paris has very strict fire codes for room occupancy... won't put three people in a two person room.

Was able to upgrade crew room to junior suite for nights I'd be there for 115E... the other nights when I'm not there, they move to a different room for the crew rate of 149E... not too shabby.

Any suggestions for getting them from CDG to the hotel (preferably not on the metro... don't want them dragging bags on the metro... BTDT.)?

Thanks again.

ATL has a lot for all employees over at the GO. Shuttle runs about every 20 minutes. I park there whenever I nonrev. Last May there was some discussion of moving it over behind the credit union. Check with the CP office.

Assuming you eventually want to transfer to SEA, I'd get parking there and use the (only slightly) less convenient GO lot in ATL. It drops you outside the main terminal instead of at a concourse, but there are employee "cheesegraters" or KCM.

Except he never said that. He said the fleet changes combined with profit sharing and productivity changes would cover the cost. The vast majority of that was expected to be covered by the increased revenue from the fleet changes. Mike Cambell himself agreed with the costing on the contract as the companies main negotiator.
How do you explain the fact the companies pilot costs have gone up almost exactly the amounts predicted in DALPA's and the company's costing. Are they forging their quarterly and annual reports to match that costing?

If your layover hotel is Montparnass, there's a bus service to the train station right across the street. It's called the Air France bus or Roissy bus. They go from CDG directly to several downtown locations, one of which is Gare de Montparnass[/QUOTE]