Reserves do get 4.5 per day but only counted as an average. Example. If you are on a 2 day trip the trip as a whole must pay 9.0. It has absolutely no bearing on what the first last or middle days pay individually. Any trip credit is paid on the last day. Duty period average of 5:15 works the exact same way except it covers only REG pilots and applies only to duty periods.

It's important for everyone to understand that we do not have a 4:30 or 5:15 min day. We have an AVERAGE. Again, all that means is the trip as a whole will pay a total of 4:30,9:00,13:30,and 18:00. The 4:30 applies to the number of calendar days in a rotation. # calendar days multiplied by 4:30 is the min that rotation can pay for everyone. 5:15 times number of duty periods for a regular pilot is the min that rotation will pay for a REG. Duty period means you flew at least one leg.

In your case if your deadhead was 20 minutes on the first day that's all you'd get but the second day would pay 8:40 for an average of 9:00.

Also, WRT, the negotiators notepad and 5:15. It will be implemented NLT November and does not apply now. 4:30 applies to everyone now and will be replaced by 5:15 NLT November. At that time DPA of 5:15 will be eliminated.

I agree but does this apply to greens? For reserve

Come on Jerry, you are an intelligent guy. To keep saying this, which you know is both incorrect vis a vis the pilots, and not an accurate quote to begin with really makes you look idiotic. Nobody that is really paying any attention to what is going on is going to pay any heed to your continued beating of this mute drum. Those that do are already helping you to carry Caplinger's water, so why don't you just take it back to the doughnut forum. If you choose to continue wasting your time in this manner, have at it, but you really look foolish in the process.....

Carry on soldier boy.

By the way, when is the vote?

Not in the Krispy Kreme world it didn't.

Thanks again GJ & DD!

It does but the way I understand your scenario you would only get 2hrs of pay plus one payback day. I'm assuming you are doing a multi day green slip where the first day is an off day and the rest of the days are over reserve days... Is this a correct assumption?

If you can give a more detailed accounting of where your off days are, where you on call days are, what the trip pays each day, and what it pays total.

T,

I wouldn't waste too much time replying to gzsg's posts. Quite frankly, I doubt that his name is even Jerry F.? He more than likely flew with a Captain, someone who stated they never come to this board, and is using his name as a reference instead.

I personally PM'ed (so-called) Jerry, giving him my real name for proof that I was genuinely interested in hearing, behind the scenes, what his sources were for the pay banding/LBP argument last week. Never received a reply.

So either he isn't who he says he is, or the information he spews on this board is as false as the wannabe independent union he was backing. (a.k.a DPA)

Good day,

GJ

Yeah you are probably right... Thanks for the slap back to reality.

If it is JF, I can tell you that -

-- He's a great guy to talk to in person

-- He's very smart and connected to smart people

-- He never kisses and tells who those real smart people are

-- He is right A LOT more often than he's wrong

So, if it's him, he will be a great contributor, even if he does have a taste for pastry:D

I've wonder the same about Purple for awhile, I've thought he may actually be a dispatcher but Carl vouches for him........

Ferd