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And that somehow dampens the safety concern? This is really the crux of all the angst here, and I think it massively hypocritical of us to even discuss money trumping safety. But here we are.

Our entire industry is risk management and the cost of something vs. the safety of doing it.

I asked about it and it looks like LC changes with the LOA to no acknowledgement required (with some nuances of course). That is way better!

badflaps

05-17-2014 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1645425)

This right here^^^ What we SHOULD be doing is eliminating the 2 man availability of the company to schedule trips like LIM and DUB...

Capt. Square, what exactly does^^^^^^^ mean?

Check Essential

05-17-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1645428)

I asked about it and it looks like LC changes with the LOA to no acknowledgement required. That is way better!

I heard the same rumor. No more trip acknowledgement at all.
Studying the 117 language and comments now to see if that would be legal.
My first inclination was "that can't be", but so far I don't see why not.

cards5

05-17-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1645433)

Why is this better?

Check Essential

05-17-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cards5 (Post 1645441)

Why is this better?

80 said it was better. Not me.
I'm still piecing together how it might work.
The FAA "interpretations" I've looked at so far don't seem to require any acknowledgement of flight duty assignments in the long call reserve scenario. You just have to have the prospective rest opportunity.

Denny Crane

05-17-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1645433)

I heard the same rumor. No more trip acknowledgement at all.
Studying the 117 language and comments now to see if that would be legal.
My first inclination was "that can't be", but so far I don't see why not.

Okay, for those as dense as me... How would that work for a trip assignment or short call assignment?

Denny

80ktsClamp

05-17-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cards5 (Post 1645441)

Why is this better?

Because it removes the leash of 10 hr acknowledgement and the subsequent PD that they have been doing to guys that didn't do it in time.

Check Essential

05-17-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1645446)

Okay, for those as dense as me... How would that work for a trip assignment or short call assignment?

Denny