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Purple Drank 03-20-2014 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Pro Fessional (Post 1606776)
And you are probably an automatic "no" voter?

So you agree with my estimate that 45%+ of the pilot group has armed the autoyes mode?

Herkflyr 03-20-2014 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1606802)
So you agree with my estimate that 45%+ of the pilot group has armed the autoyes mode?

Do you agree with MY estimate that 45% of the pilot group has armed the autono mode?

NERD 03-20-2014 05:19 PM

That would have been our resident "everything NWA is bad" poster. BB



Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 1606799)
For the millionth time, years of service, ie DOH at your previous airline, is MEANINGLESS. Relative %, status and category is it. Lots of people were affected by the SLI and subsequent merger efficiencies. Bet lots of fNWA also moved up after the merger. Don't know who started it......but let it go please.


iaflyer 03-20-2014 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1606802)
So you agree with my estimate that 45%+ of the pilot group has armed the autoyes mode?

So what if they are. Isn't each person's vote their own?

iaflyer 03-20-2014 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1606644)
A document straight from crew resources. I tried to post it but could not make it format. Posters said I was lying anyway yet as always could offer none of their own data. I will try again to post. Yea, success!

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps283cdf49.jpg

Thanks for posting that. Despite what people say, it's nice to see additional Captain positions. As a junior FO, those are all higher paying than me - great.

For a new hire - even better. Means more hiring probably.

For a 777 FO - less exciting because unless he wants positions more on the right side of the chart. In fact, the 717 and M88 Captain positions might be the same pay, not higher because the FOs might be able to get GS as a Senior FO.

People here are trying to say that because there haven't been a Captain position on aircraft X in base Y there hasn't been growth. Well - maybe not for THEM but for many others there has been.

But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's nice for all FOs to have the opportunity of 717A if they want it.

flyallnite 03-20-2014 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1606834)
Thanks for posting that. Despite what people say, it's nice to see additional Captain positions. As a junior FO, those are all higher paying than me - great.

For a new hire - even better. Means more hiring probably.

For a 777 FO - less exciting because unless he wants positions more on the right side of the chart. In fact, the 717 and M88 Captain positions might be the same pay, not higher because the FOs might be able to get GS as a Senior FO.

People here are trying to say that because there haven't been a Captain position on aircraft X in base Y there hasn't been growth. Well - maybe not for THEM but for many others there has been.

But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's nice for all FOs to have the opportunity of 717A if they want it.

On paper, the 777A, 747A and 330A positions are coming. The retirement numbers are there, and the 330's start showing up next year. Unless we are planning to shrink the fleet from the top, those positions are opening up starting end of 2014 and continuing on. This is just the beginning of movement for the list. The only difference from past years is that because of age 65, the guys at the top of the list aren't generating any movement yet, as they did in the past. The movement now is pure growth, albeit at the narrobody level. When it starts at the top also, Katy, bar the door.

Roadkill 03-20-2014 06:07 PM

Someone asked about GS while on a PD. Here's all that the contract has to say about picking up any flying while on a PD or APD, from sect 23I:

A pilot will not be awarded a white slip, GS, GSWC, IA, IAWC, yellow slip, or swap for
23 a rotation that is scheduled to operate on a day on which APD appears on his schedule.
24 10. A reserve pilot will not be awarded a GS, IA, or yellow slip for a rotation that is
25 scheduled to operate during a day of his PD.

Looks like a regular line holder CAN do anything he wants on top of a PD,
a reserve guy CAN'T,
and no one can fly on top of an APD day.

gloopy 03-20-2014 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1606765)
Not to be outdone by Hannity and General Numbnuts on Fox, CNN ups the ante on the idiocy with regard to MH370:


I hope it doesn't land on Guam. A plane that size would capsize the crap out of a small island like that.

Honestly I think it just got lost. I mean most U.S. Americans don't even have maps.

I love cats. I love every kind of cats. I just want to hug them all, but I can't; can't hug every cat.

Props to the J-schools of the world though, srsly. They are cranking out some super great stuff right now.

tsquare 03-20-2014 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 1606799)
For the millionth time, years of service, ie DOH at your previous airline, is MEANINGLESS. Relative %, status and category is it. Lots of people were affected by the SLI and subsequent merger efficiencies. Bet lots of fNWA also moved up after the merger. Don't know who started it......but let it go please.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++717

Purple Drank 03-20-2014 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1606821)
So what if they are. Isn't each person's vote their own?

Certainly.

However, if that number is in the ballpark, it will greatly impede our ability to negotiate a contract anywhere near "restoration." Or much more than "cost neutral," for that matter.

If it's just a matter of convincing a small number of "non-automatic" folks to accept a mediocre TA, we'll see more of these mediocre TAs (and more full-bore sales jobs from the company/DALPA sharpshooting a very small demographic). It's the path of least resistance.


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