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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1607691)

There is a caveat that says the company can ignore freezes if they want to.

that's the one that confuses me. under what circumstances would they?

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1607582)

We could see that in way less than ten years. The devil is in the certification details and the cost.

I agree. I was trying to be optimistic, and not make it sound like it'll be on our Ops Certificate's tomorrow. Reallistically, I think it's 5-7 years out anyway.

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1607582)

Will it be sufficient to just wire an alarm clock to the rest quarters that goes off for just about anything? That plus some "hacker proof" (yeah right) remote control to the existing autopilot? If the auto throttles quit and the alarm got a sleeping pilot to the controls before anything bad happened, does that flight now have to divert because the crew will time out because their rest was interrupted?

MEL dependent, per company certification. Refer to FTB's Flow Charts. (FTB, I think there's a copyright in there for your somewhere?) :)

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1607582)

It can technically be "done" quite easily, depending on your definition of do (or it). But it can't be done cheaply while still providing the same level of monitoring, intervention and crisis response times. And all for what, saving 2 pilots hourly costs? Even considering total compensation hourly costs, I can't see them being anywhere near 10 years from something like that with the same level of safety, reliability and cost.

You bring up a fair analysis of associated "cost to entry" into the program. I think you're oversimplifying, or maybe slightly exaggerating the costs associated with application, but the point you brought up above, is exactly why there's now an RFP and a four-year program to look into the dynamics of implementation.

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1607582)

Who knows, maybe Fred Smith hates pilots so much he's willing to fall on his sword to throw belly containers of thousand dollar bills at something like this long before its truly cost ready just to say he does it. But with increasing margin pressures that are challenging otherwise solid volumes and the era of dual subsidized meglomaniac foreign carriers about to capacity dump on them as fast as Boeing and Airbus can crank them out, I'm not seeing how that segment can afford to screw around with something like that in the next 10 years.

Respectfully, what I've highlighted above is the exact point of discussion. Domestic carriers/cargo operators like Delta, American, United, FEDEX, or UPS won't be spending the money on this technology. The infrastructure is being tested, as we speak, and cost to entry will be significantly reduced, based on the Corporate contractor world and our very own (spread the wealth) Gubermint assuming all the costs. (Remember how good of a deal Solyndra was expected to be?) :eek:

I'm not a tinfoil hat, sky is falling, black helicopters following me type of a guy, (Although I did fly the Blackhawk for about eight years.) :) but this technology is here to stay, and is only going to become more prolific and be cost advantageous to user's in the future. (Hint - My current iPhone has the same computing capability of my first [Toshiba] laptop, in 2002, that cost me just under $2000.)

Good day,

GJ

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Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1607693)

Sailing,

Don't sweat it. You are clearly one of the more well informed posters on this forum and contribute a lot of good information - keep it coming!

Scoop :)

I second that! You bring some great info.................which helps make up for the crap that guys like me post. Glad you're here.

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Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1607693)

Sailing,

Don't sweat it. You are clearly one of the more well informed posters on this forum and contribute a lot of good information - keep it coming!

Scoop :)

I second that! You bring some great info.................which helps make up for the utter crap that guys like me post. Glad you're here.

Third-ed. :)

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Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 1607720)

that's the one that confuses me. under what circumstances would they?

If they have guys frozen in an overmanned category and they need them elsewhere...just a guess.

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1607849)

If they have guys frozen in an overmanned category and they need them elsewhere...just a guess.

Wouldn't they just displace?

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Originally Posted by FL370 (Post 1607882)

Wouldn't they just displace?

If you bid out, voluntarily, to a place where there are vacancies, vs. being displaced to a full category, it saves them training; i.e. the potential snowball getting bigger, rolling down the hill.

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1607705)

I slept with my pillow against my belly so Maximillian couldn't get me with his spinning claws.

Be advised, nerd creep in progress.

I believe that was the first PG movie that Disney put out. Pretty dark and raw for them. 10 year old me dug x-wings and phasers like most, but got extra geeked-out and freaked-out by stuff like The Black Hole and Space:1999.
Loved that die cast Eagle Lander I had!

http://www.gavinrothery.com/storage/...=1319998714304

Somehow I thought Ultraman was super cool too, cant explain that one....

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1607705)

Now I spoon Mrs. Boomer so she'll get it first.

Mrs Boomer might put up a good fight, she's scrappy.

http://0.tqn.com/d/scifi/1/7/I/N/-/-/30.jpg

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Originally Posted by Leroy Smith (Post 1607968)

Space 1999 was pretty cool, and really expensive to make for the time.

There was one episode, however, "Dragon's Domain", that made this 7 year old **** his pants. It gave me nightmares for weeks, and probably put some people in therapy.

Looking at the clips now, the FX seems a little cheesy, BUT, it was a seriously messed up story, and pretty wild for broadcast TV. There was a little "viewer discretion advised" bumper before the ep, but what kid pays attention to that?

Almost 40 years later I still remember the shakes that episode gave me.

Nu