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What's up with big late night surge in flights at SLC over July 4th weekend?

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1598367)

What if you fly a trip later in the month that would carry you above the trigger? Do you get GS pay for the earlier GS trip?

Yes, you do.

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Originally Posted by iFlyer (Post 1598037)

You can actually just drop it using as few as one payback day. The strategy is to drop the most expensive day, and get paid for it, then greenslip or whiteslip inside the footprint for more pay.

It doesn't quite work that way. If you have enough PB days in the bank to cover the entire trip being dropped, then that many days will be used and you are paid for the entire trip. If you have fewer PB days than the length of the trip, then the PB days are applied to the first portion of the trip, and that is the portion for which you are paid.

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Originally Posted by groundstop (Post 1598081)

Let say...you have 7 days of vacation, 10 x-days, and 14 on call days. Now if you drop a day, what are you losing?

When you PD an on-call day, your guarantee is debited by a "reserve pro rata share," which is defined as "the reserve guarantee divided by the associated number of on-call days in a bid period on a reserve line." So, regardless of the number of on-call days you personally start with, a PD costs you the same amount, i.e., 1/16, 1/17, or 1/18 of the reserve guarantee, depending upon the ALV and reserve staffing in your category.

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1598095)

I also don't think we're going to snap back to the abusive way it used to be. But if a recovery system is proposed that strictly protects originally awarded report and release times and honors the same redeye and theatre paradigms, hotels in domicile and a positive space commute for each originally scheduled front or back end DH, plus greater of per day pay protection, I don't think you're going to see 51% of the pilot group turn down sorely needed across the board improvements just so that a couple guys per category can buddy bid with check airmen and get their entire month off, or that plus GS for a month and make triple pay.

To quote guys like M88, I'm not sure why we have to give up some things to get others. Why not simply go after improvements?

While we do all hear of guys who cash in on certain aspects of our contract in a big way, those work rules are there to protect everyone. Do we really want more recovery flying rather than less? Is it really OK for a pilot, any pilot, who happens to have an LCP swap onto his trip suddenly have FCO taken away from him and be sent to DKR instead, so long as it's in the same footprint and he gets an extra hotel room, all for the convenience of the Company?

Sorry, but I'd rather have door pay and have my flight time start counting after engine start.

Quick question. Need to get ZED paper passes for my parents who are traveling today. They can buy them at a Delta ticket counter, correct?

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Originally Posted by Wingnutdal (Post 1598541)

Quick question. Need to get ZED paper passes for my parents who are traveling today. They can buy them at a Delta ticket counter, correct?

Yes,you must buy them at a Delta ticket counter.

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Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1598543)

Yes,you must buy them at a Delta ticket counter.

Thanks! They are on a non revving adventure right now!

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Originally Posted by Wingnutdal (Post 1598541)

Quick question. Need to get ZED paper passes for my parents who are traveling today. They can buy them at a Delta ticket counter, correct?

Actually, most companies now participate in the ZED program electronically. You can get those through the travelnet. I was able to get a ZED fare on KLM from Zurich to AMS just 30 mins prior to departure using my smartphone.

Also, you can find a list of all ZED participants on the travelnet. This will tell you whether or not they participate electronically. Very few require you to go to the ticket counter.

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Originally Posted by Michael Jackson (Post 1598553)

I don't believe that's the case for the same day travel. You still must use the ticket counter. At least that was how it was a year ago when I attempted to buy a Zed on line. Oops, I see you managed it same day. I was trying on Iberia.