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GunshipGuy 01-19-2014 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by flyerc90 (Post 1562436)
My buddy in NYC is on RSV and has traditionally not acknowledged a SC until the required time since he commutes. He has continued this practice with our current issues. He was assigned SC last week, ack per the PWA, they PD'd the rsv day and he got a call from CP. CP said "you need to do it per the memo" ALPA said "you're following the PWA we will support you"

They then assigned him another SC the very next day.....he did the same exact thing as the first.....same PD on his sked, same CP call, same union response. Havent heard any further outcome, but NYC reps said he was the only pilot in NYC doing this.


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 1562447)
And here is the problem. The company has actually unilaterally changed our contract. One memo from SD and people salute smartly and comply. No wonder the union is having a hard time getting the company to negotiate. Why would they, they've taken what they needed.

Wait till the Superbowl or Christmas...Christmas would be interesting if everyone was aware of how to get that elusive PD.

GunshipGuy 01-19-2014 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by flyerc90 (Post 1562436)
My buddy in NYC is on RSV and has traditionally not acknowledged a SC until the required time since he commutes. He has continued this practice with our current issues. He was assigned SC last week, ack per the PWA, they PD'd the rsv day and he got a call from CP. CP said "you need to do it per the memo" ALPA said "you're following the PWA we will support you"

They then assigned him another SC the very next day.....he did the same exact thing as the first.....same PD on his sked, same CP call, same union response. Havent heard any further outcome, but NYC reps said he was the only pilot in NYC doing this.

One of my reps said he had a line for this month, but was bidding resv (which he holds more often than a reg line) and was going to be doing the same his first day of resv, leaving me with the impression he was doing it to be part of the grievance.

Check Essential 01-19-2014 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1562480)
Only that Donatelli says that we should comply with the PWA and that we will be defended against any adverse consequences. Presumably, that defense is not instantaneously successful, but takes some amount of time to mount. I've heard reps going to the CPO to argue in favor of those pilots.

Given the Company's stance to date and what is at stake, I can't imagine that the CPOs will be allowed to ease up until there is an overall agreement with DALPA on how reserve will work going forward.

So what has been the result of these CPO visits?
Did the pilots get their pay restored or not?
If not, why hasn't DALPA filed a grievance?

Flamer 01-19-2014 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1562480)
Only that Donatelli says that we should comply with the PWA and that we will be defended against any adverse consequences. Presumably, that defense is not instantaneously successful, but takes some amount of time to mount. I've heard reps going to the CPO to argue in favor of those pilots.

Given the Company's stance to date and what is at stake, I can't imagine that the CPOs will be allowed to ease up until there is an overall agreement with DALPA on how reserve will work going forward.

It's also pretty cool that the CPOs that are harassing you for following the contract are actually in YOUR union. So much for the "we are here to help" fairy tale

Purple Drank 01-19-2014 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1562513)
It's also pretty cool that the CPOs that are harassing you for following the contract are actually in YOUR union. So much for the "we are here to help" fairy tale

The CPs always play "good cop" and talk about how they're "going to bat for you" "because we're here to help..." but they're sorry, they just can't do anything about the big, bad meanies on the 4th floor ("bad cop.")

I don't trust the CPs a bit.

Back to the question at hand:

Has DALPA been able to restore pay for those following the PWA, and if not, where is the grievance?

Purple Drank 01-19-2014 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1562324)
That is the companies position only.

What is DALPA doing about it?

80ktsClamp 01-19-2014 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1562516)
What is DALPA doing about it?

It's pretty cut and dry... they will grieve it and the pilots will get their money back in a few months. That's the way the process goes.

NERD 01-19-2014 11:07 AM

IMHO, it's time to put SD and the CP's on notice that this will not be tolerated. I'm not sure if it can be done, but the process to have them thrown out of ALPA needs to begin yesterday. I'm sure it is only a handful that are doing this, but a message needs to be sent to all, the good and the bad one's.

forgot to bid 01-19-2014 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1562517)
It's pretty cut and dry... florida state won.

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Purple Drank 01-19-2014 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1562517)
It's pretty cut and dry... they will grieve it and the pilots will get their money back in a few months. That's the way the process goes.

Has the grievance been filed?


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