Yep, add in the two hours or so of report time makes the first report... noonish.

I'm not wrong about the midnight obligation..... I did state that he had LC obligation starting at midnight. What he did not have was an obligation to answer the phone right away or immediately respond at midnight.

The bolded part of your quote is the key. In the memo world only.

So they are not even following their own memo.......

If the last day off schedule check is not required now (even mentions that in the memo I believe, and can't be required per fars?) and you go on long call at midnight, a 10am short call doesn't work as there is no prospective 10 hours of rest after notification. Even per the memo you have 2 hours to respond under the worst case scenario. So if they call at midnight for 10am short call, and you don't respond until 0145, 10am short call doesn't work for the far's.

EDIT for reference: "Part 117 requires that a long call reserve pilot be given at least 10 hours of rest prior to starting an assigned FDP or reserve availibility period (RAP)....rest must be prospective in nature, so the pilot must acknowledge any fdp or rap no later than 10 hours prior......" Quote is from dalpa sched. alert.

Now apparently they are even departing from the memo.
Dickson originally said nothing before noon on the first on call day.
Seems we are now getting 10 AM short calls.

Looks like they are just going to keep squeezing us tighter and tighter as long as nobody fights it.

Just my opinion, but I think its about time DALPA quit being so passive.
Management is slowly and methodically shoving our contract right down our throats. You'd think the union would react.

I agree. Looks like we posted close together. They aren't even following their own memo anymore. I wouldn't say nobody is fighting it. People here are calling about things like 10am short calls.... hopefully others do as well.

EDIT: Also agree on the dalpa end of it. We need some strong leadership and positioning on this, with no ambiguity.

Partly true. Crew accommodations is handled by a different company, but their personnel are located in the OCC (usually 3-4 on duty).

T

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Anyone use Dr. Miles Brett for their Medical? If so pirep please....

Coming off an X day, you are obligated to check your schedule at 1500 to before 0200 BASE TIME (The Reserve day following your last X day). If you are on a Vacation Day, no need to and this does not apply.

You are always on Long Call Status, unless they convert you to SC or give you a trip (FDP). You need at least 10 hours REST (12 hours if the start of SC or FDP is 0200-0559) before the start of SC or FDP.
i.e. If you have not acknowledged your assigned SC or RDP by 10 hours to go (12 hours for 0200-0559), you are not legal to do it.

You are always on Long Call. You are only obligated to check your schedule every NINE (9) hours via computer or VRU..Its time stamped.

If in this 9 hour check, there are no assignments, you can shut your phone off until the next 9 hours. i.e. Im on LC and at 1000 I check my schedule via icrew but I am not assigned anything so I shut my phone off for 9 hours. At 1900 I am obligated to check my schedule.

In other words. Long Call Pilot is on a 12 Hour Leash but is only obligated to check his schedule every 9 hours and acknowledge it no later than 3 hours before the start of an FDP. Or acknowledge a SC assignment no later than 1 hour prior to SC.

Also, when you are given a REST PERIOD, you have to acknowledge no Later than 6 hours AFTER THE REST BEGINS. Then you can turn everything off.

One important note, a LC pilot has no obligation of responsibility for contact during the 12 hour immediately prior to scheduled report time of rotation or 10 hours prior to start of ASSIGNED SC.

I hope this helps. This is what I come up with by looking over the 117 notes and literature.

TEN

What sort of reaction are you looking for, that wouldn't look impatient or foolish? The union has already told us in writing that we should respect the terms of the PWA WRT conflicts with Part 117. Meanwhile, negotiators are sitting at the table (fine), but evidently not yielding (even better).

This is the part where we sit tight, like big boys and girls, and make sure that we respect our actual obligations, while negotiations take place. All we need to do is calmly defend our rights, and time is our leverage. Hystrionics demonstrate impatience, and impatience demonstrates a willingness to agree to weak terms.

Check your calendar: we're not even in our second month under Part 117.

Some have said their little Garmin hand held GPS's have shown speeds as high as 20kts, but I have only seen 17.7 on mine. This video (and my boat) is on a 16' cat though, the 18's and 20's are a bit faster, as you would expect.

Now, if you really want to blow some dough, there are new full foiling, 100% carbon fiber 16' and 20' cats that claim 30 knots up on the foils, but the 16' costs over $30K and I think the 20' is about $45K! :eek:

Too rich for my blood!

Here's the 16' foiling cat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgCz94GhcMc

Here's the new Nacra F20 carbon ($45K): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgaV8EBeuO8

Here's a carbon 25' foiling cat, but it's also got a solid wing. These are called C cats, and they are well over $100K http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8ll...92028CB1CB5B0A