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RockyBoy 01-31-2014 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1571107)
Operation is still a disaster. Flights to all hubs from DFW either cancelled or hours late. One flight will have pilots but no FAs, the next is the opposite. No communication either. The gate agents are not aware of crew delays/issues until they don't show. Passengers way ****ed and rightfully so. Time for SD and RA to eat a little humble pie and put their backpacks on.

And I've been home for 7 days and have another 7 days off. Have in GS's for all bases and have not heard a thing. Obviously they are struggling to figure out who is where and who is legal. Maybe they could pull a JetBlue and just shut down for a day and a half to "reset" the operation. :)

Timbo 01-31-2014 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by fisherpilot (Post 1571066)
That's pretty cool!

Hey Timbo..... I'm gonna be around your neck of the woods in a few months. If I brought you a case of torpedoes think I could bribe you into a ride on the racing cat? I wanna see that thing in action!

PM sent.

Here's what it looks like at speed.

Viper Wild Pitchpole! - YouTube

That's not me, but two punks I race against out training. Great footage shot from the coach's boat. If you come out with me we'll go fast if there's wind, and I promise to to finish like they did! :eek:

RockyBoy 01-31-2014 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1571219)
The OP's case doesn't seem to be about any of that though. If he acknowledged the noon SC, then he would have been completely legal to do the 14:30ish trip. They may have called after midnight but they didn't have to, and he didn't have to answer. As far as he knew, he had SC at noon so that's when the phone comes on. Even if they tried to stick it to him with the SD fantasy 2 hour leash memo, that had nothing to do with anything, as he still had over 2 hours had they just waited til start of SC to call again.

The only things I can think of is that they either just reflexively "pumped and dumped" the trip because they were in "fantasy memo mode" or they were trying to get an earlier acknowledgement because they wanted or needed a long duty day and wanted report to start at 14:30 instead of off a noon RAP.

The key here is was the SC acknowledged? He was required to ack the SC by 2AM per the contract. If he did then everything you said is correct and it's a little weird because they could have just called him at noon when the SC started.

gloopy 01-31-2014 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1571217)
I think this will take a long time to figure out who wins. The only way we are going to win is to stick to the contract that both parties signed and agreed to. If we just go along with the SD memo then they will absolutely win.

The SD memo was DOA. They aren't even close to getting full compliance with a 2 hour leash while on LC. That's why they are trying to give at least 16 hours notice so that they at least have a somewhat reasonable case to make. Inventing a 2 hour leash actually hurts their cause when this goes to grievance. Attempting to enforce it makes it a slam dunk win for the pilots. At the very least nothing earlier than noon on day one is a huge QOL improvement. Absolutely massive. And that's what we have as a baseline now to begin reserve QOL negotiations from. That better be involitile and better not be traded for anything else. Going back to mandatory day off schedule checks so we can get 5AM shows is a thing of the past and I don't think our negotiators are dumb enough to give that back.

The other open issue is LC RSV callback times. The fantasy memo says 2 hours, but that was DOA before the ink dried. As of now its basically 19 hours, and even that doesn't resolve the notification issue. So unless we really drop the ball, it looks like LC in the future will be significantly greater than 12 hours as well, with nothing earler on day one than noon.

M20EPilot 01-31-2014 08:13 AM

Wondering if any DL pilots could help out on a nonrev/load check question?

My wife and I are looking at JFK/TLV for a vacation (DL468, DL469). I am a pilot for 'OO' and can see loads and list us OK, but there is a warning saying that the flight will depart with empty seats to take revenue cargo. Ok fair enough... does anybody have any insight as to how badly this can be weight restricted this time of year? How many empty seats would be considered "safe"?

The flight is on a 744 with about 10hr block going there, 13 coming back.

Jack Bauer 01-31-2014 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1571157)
A comprehensive interview with the Chief...


Airline Business Interview - Richard Anderson - Delta Air Lines

Good info. Thanks for sharing. Say what you may, there is no better airline CEO currently operating than RA. I thought it was interesting what he said about "debt is not our friend", the direct opposite of the old guard at NWA (Al Checchi and Gary Wilson who famously said "debt is our friend" then siphoned off a lot of good NWA assets).

PilotFrog 01-31-2014 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1571207)
I don't care. I would WRECK that chick.

Be careful, she might slit your throat after.

BigGuns 01-31-2014 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by M20EPilot (Post 1571247)
Wondering if any DL pilots could help out on a nonrev/load check question?

My wife and I are looking at JFK/TLV for a vacation (DL468, DL469). I am a pilot for 'OO' and can see loads and list us OK, but there is a warning saying that the flight will depart with empty seats to take revenue cargo. Ok fair enough... does anybody have any insight as to how badly this can be weight restricted this time of year? How many empty seats would be considered "safe"?

The flight is on a 744 with about 10hr block going there, 13 coming back.

That message has been there for 2 years from when it was a ER. Weight is never a problem unless it is like 100℉+.

Jack Bauer 01-31-2014 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1571222)
PM sent.

Here's what it looks like at speed.

Viper Wild Pitchpole! - YouTube

That's not me, but two punks I race against out training. Great footage shot from the coach's boat. If you come out with me we'll go fast if there's wind, and I promise to to finish like they did! :eek:

Timbo, I don't know much about sailing. Curious how fast boats like that in the video go?

DLpilot 01-31-2014 08:29 AM

Another scenario. My overnight cancels as a line holder. How long am I expected to hang out at the airport waiting for them to figure out my schedule?


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