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Originally Posted by APCLurker
(Post 1571336)
And yes, sked check was done the day before, after 1500 base time. Nothing was there, so long call.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1571360)
Delta management has confirmed to 9E management that they believe they will hire 600-650 pilots this yea,r and next year at least.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1571360)
Delta management has confirmed to 9E management that they believe they will hire 600-650 pilots this yea,r and next year at least. However, they only have approval for 300???
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I wonder if management is still confident that they can manage IROPS with re-routes after this month? :D
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1571219)
If he acknowledged the noon SC, then he would have been completely legal to do the 14:30ish trip. They may have called after midnight but they didn't have to, and he didn't have to answer. As far as he knew, he had SC at noon so that's when the phone comes on. Even if they tried to stick it to him with the SD fantasy 2 hour leash memo, that had nothing to do with anything, as he still had over 2 hours had they just waited til start of SC to call again.
Originally Posted by APCLurker
(Post 1571324)
You had already acknowledged your sc assignment. You were not required to answer your phone at midnight. Per our contract you have no obligation to immediately respond to a long-call assignment during the two hours that you were on long-call (0000-0200, 10 prior to the start of your short call).
And yes, it seems they could have just given you the assignment at 1200 when your short call started. Why they didn't is a good question. You guys are correct when you say that they could have just called him at noon and given him the trip as a short call assignment. You are both wrong about the midnight obligation though. Look close in iCrew at the Reserve Availability List. Guys coming off X days who are put on short call for the following day at noon have 2 hours of long call from midnight to 2 AM. Its right there under the RAW GROUP and DAYS AVAIL. You have to have your phone on during those 2 hours or check your schedule at 2 AM. (that is -- in Dickson's world only. Under the "real" contract the last non-fly day schedule check still works) . |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1571222)
PM sent.
Here's what it looks like at speed. Viper Wild Pitchpole! - YouTube That's not me, but two punks I race against out training. Great footage shot from the coach's boat. If you come out with me we'll go fast if there's wind, and I promise to to finish like they did! :eek: |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1571379)
That's all why I said it was a critical piece of info whether he ack'ed the short call.
You guys are correct when you say that they could have just called him at noon and given him the trip as a short call assignment. You are both wrong about the midnight obligation though. Look close in iCrew at the Reserve Availability List. Guys coming off X days who are put on short call for the following day at noon have 2 hours of long call from midnight to 2 AM. Its right there under the RAW GROUP and DAYS AVAIL. You have to have your phone on during those 2 hours or check your schedule at 2 AM. (that is -- in Dickson's world only. Under the "real" contract the last non-fly day schedule check still works) . |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1571402)
That's only true along with no obligation to acknowledge prior to 3 hours prior, and then needing 10 hours rest. So if anyone tried to "go all contract" on him over that, thats not an interpertation they want to get into.
Its a mess right now but I hope management understands the need to start resolving one or two of these issues in our favor. We've caved in far too often over the last several years. We've given them billions and its the pilots' turn to get a little bit back now that the corporation can afford it. I hope ALPA will "go all contract" for a change. |
They are putting guys coming off x-days on short call at 10am now.
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1571363)
Giddyup! Now lets get that A-350 order signed, a SEA narrowbody base, and 2014 will be a good year.
Right on!:p |
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