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rahc 11-18-2013 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by exeagle (Post 1522623)
Is there a way to look at old rotations you've flown in icrew? Every time I try the rotation function it says no data.

Look the rotation via the flight time log in iCrew. The rotations under the monthly schedule get pulled down after 2 months or so

Herkflyr 11-18-2013 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1522589)
Herk,

You are right but DAL is giving our passengers what they want. People always complain about lack of service by airlines but mostly purchase based on only one thing............price. At times airlines have tried to charge a little more for a better product and people would not pay for it.

It was easy to be critical of DAL when we were losing billions but a little harder now that we are making billions. I agree it makes it harder for the FAs but that is no different to what is happening to most employees in most industries, including us.

If the pax in the back truly don't like it they will not come back. If we keep that flight full then I assume that they are OK with it.

Scoop

Your last sentence said it all--too true!

exeagle 11-18-2013 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by rahc (Post 1522629)
Look the rotation via the flight time log in iCrew. The rotations under the monthly schedule get pulled down after 2 months or so


Thanks rahc

maddogmax 11-18-2013 11:16 AM

There has been a lot of "discussion" about wether Delta pilots would ever go on strike. I believe that the strike threat has been negated by the recent mergers. Does anyone think that any administration, either democratic or republican, would allow one of the 4 major airlines to go on strike for any extended length of time?

newKnow 11-18-2013 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1522655)
There has been a lot of "discussion" about wether Delta pilots would ever go on strike. I believe that the strike threat has been negated by the recent mergers. Does anyone think that any administration, either democratic or republican, would allow one of the 4 major airlines to go on strike for any extended length of time?

I bet the company would fear a near 100% strike vote from the pilot group almost as much as an actual strike.

Ok. Maybe not quite as much. But, a unified pilot group ready to take action? I know it's not something they would want.

Our early agreement last year probably helped them just as much as ALPA said it helped us. It avoided uncertainty and the bad publicity that sometimes comes with contract negotiations.

iaflyer 11-18-2013 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1522608)
From what I recall, there just weren't that many 757-300s built. NWA got a batch, CAL got some, and so did ATA. Only the NWA birds had Pratts.

There were 55 made. I think Condor got some, as well as Arkia Israel Airlines.

Purple Drank 11-18-2013 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1522668)
It avoided uncertainty and the bad publicity that sometimes comes with contract negotiations.

Bad publicity is probably our biggest weapon short of a strike.

RA works hard to portray Delta as above the typical industry union fray.

He'd lose the high ground if it labor problems hit the news, social media, etc... Then Delta is just another slimy airline.

Bucking Bar 11-18-2013 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1522668)
I bet the company would fear a near 100% strike vote from the pilot group almost as much as an actual strike.

Ok. Maybe not quite as much. But, a unified pilot group ready to take action? I know it's not something they would want.

Our early agreement last year probably helped them just as much as ALPA said it helped us. It avoided uncertainty and the bad publicity that sometimes comes with contract negotiations.

newKnow,

That's an astute post. Analysts develop mathematical models to justify price targets. When the variable "labor cost" is unknown ....

This is the point I've made to my Reps in the past, "who would want to own the stock of a Company with labor problems?"

Of course one large group of Delta stock holders is Delta pilots.

As to the issue of a "strike vote," that's leverage in the hands of your negotiating committee. There is no reason not to vote to hand them the biggest tool in the box to leverage for you.

IMHO management has what they need and seeks to cancel "constructive engagement." I also hope ALPA is finished with scope sales. These forces appear to be coming together with the likely result that Contract 2015 will be a traditional, perhaps combative, labor negotiation.


My concern is how durable this little upturn we are currently "enjoying" will last. We are well positioned for openers. Management may see a benefit to dragging things out until the logical end of this business cycle.

Purple Drank 11-18-2013 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1522724)
Management may see a benefit to dragging things out until the logical end of this business cycle.

Great analysis.

My question: Will DALPA have the stones to slug it out? Nothing I've seen indicates that ALPA's current leadership has the backbone to lead us through such an ordeal.

tsquare 11-18-2013 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1522733)
Great analysis.

My question: Will DALPA have the stones to slug it out? Nothing I've seen indicates that ALPA's current leadership has the backbone to lead us through such an ordeal.


If memory serves correctly, dALPA leadership has been recalled.


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