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Carl Spackler 11-18-2013 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1522889)
I'm also not impressed that the DPA is pursuing a Delta pilot. Maybe professional standards is a committee that will cease to exist under DPA. Going after one of our own, regardless of the sin, is unacceptable. The ultimatum of going public or else is unnecessary theatrics. Won't surprise me at all if this "hacker" was hatched in the same part of Tampa that brought us the abortion letter. :rolleyes: GMAFB.

You guys' political deafness is stunning. Please keep it up. Please.

Only the most hard core ALPA sycophant would even try to spin this as a DPA crime. You guys keep forgetting that this will be won or lost by the currently undecided. My prediction is that the undecided are face palming right now at the embarrassing spin of trying to blame the victim. Keep it up boys. You're geniuses.

Carl

Dorfman 11-18-2013 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1522912)
What makes me mad is the idea of an Atlanta layover :mad: ... What the Hell?

We have a pilot base in Atlanta! Who's stealing our flyin' ? You Yankees need to stay where you belong.


The problem is I will never learn to speak Dixie if you take away my ATL layovers.

Bucking Bar 11-18-2013 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1522909)
When the FBI tracks down who actually did this ...

I'm sure it is the top priority of the FBI, they don't have anything else to do.


Originally Posted by FBI Mission Statement
Mission

The FBI’s national security mission is to lead and coordinate intelligence efforts that drive actions to protect the United States.

Our goal is to develop a comprehensive understanding of the threats and penetrate national and transnational networks that have a desire and capability to harm us. Such networks include: terrorist organizations, foreign intelligence services, those that seek to proliferate weapons of mass destruction, and criminal enterprises.

In order to be successful, we must understand the threat, continue to integrate our intelligence and law enforcement capabilities in every FBI operational program, and continue to expand our contribution to the Intelligence Community knowledge base.

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LeineLodge 11-18-2013 07:01 PM

Ruhrohh!
 
Just went back and re-read the email, and noticed the subject line:

DPA CREW VAN NEWS - FBI on the Case

This reads like a bad Nancy Drew teaser, or maybe something that Scooby & the Gang should pursue instead of the FBI...

You really can't make this stuff up. Or maybe you can?!? :cool:

Bucking Bar 11-18-2013 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Dorfman (Post 1522914)
The problem is I will never learn to speak Dixie if you take away my ATL layovers.



We send out missionaries to the frozen north.

Carl Spackler 11-18-2013 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1522890)
It isn't a simple question. I do not know of a single example of ALPA going after one of it's own members. Do you?

Sure it is Bar, if you actually pay attention to the question. Here it is again:


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1522886)
Simple question Bar. What if I as a DPA supporter wanted to help my cause along by hacking into ALPA national's website, redirect it to a fake site that denigrated ALPA, then disconnected the funding link to the ALPA PAC. Would you argue to ALPA that they shouldn't investigate it because old Carl might get in legal trouble?

Care to actually answer, or are you on your way to radio silence for a while.

Carl

Carl Spackler 11-18-2013 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1522894)
I'm questioning whether there actually was a "hacker" at all. You guys howl about transparency. Show me the evidence. Until then I'll be left to wonder if this is a publicity stunt.

Looks like we're in motion to do just that.

Carl

LeineLodge 11-18-2013 07:10 PM

This is an excerpt from the last Crew Van News on 11/15. Bolded part is my highlight:


ITEM 1: Hacking Update

We discovered today that last weekend's attack disconnected the link to our secure credit card transaction facility. The redirect of our URL simply broke the link to our account and those that tried to donate to DPA using the 2nd option received an error and could not enter their contribution. No data was compromised since we do not store data on our site, but no donations were received either.

The Donation Link has been restored and IMMEDIATELY donations began coming in. Because we have now been possibly harmed financially, the importance of completing this investigation properly just went up. We are dealing with a possible felony that could even result in time behind bars for those responsible. Having said that, we are moving forward with legal action to get to the bottom of the "WHO" and the "HOW". What we already know gets clearer every day.

A big decision will emerge when the name of the individual is confirmed. If it is a Delta Pilot, should we prosecute or forgive and forget? If that person takes responsibility, can we (all Delta Pilots) move on and allow them to finish their career without being ostracized? DPA believes Delta Pilots are professional enough to take the long view in the matter. We realize that this is just a campaign and at times, people make poor decisions and DPA leadership is susceptible to that problem as well. We haven't run our campaign perfectly, ALPA has made their mistakes as well and everyone can fall prey to escalating emotions. DPA believes we should be able to shake the hand of even the most ardent supporter of ALPA after we win and move on unified as Delta Pilots. It all depends on whether or not we feel we can resolve the situation peacefully and ensure it doesn't happen again.

"It's always darkest before the dawn."
Ignoring the dramatic closing quote, it seems that Tim already forgot what he wrote last Friday. The entire piece tries to paint the picture that we should be forgiving of this individual. He even finishes with a little foreshadowing that "it depends on whether or not we can resolve the situation peacefully and ensure it doesn't happen again."

I guess an alleged personal call wasn't enough to satisfy Tim's bloodlust for ALPA. He demanded a public shaming instead, and has now chosen to put the Feds "on the case."

Is that about right Carl? Just want to make sure I'm getting this correctly.

Dorfman 11-18-2013 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1522921)

Care to actually answer, or are you on your way to radio silence for a while.

Carl

Interesting accusation there Carl. You seem to like to go for radio silence yourself when you are questioned or facts you state or proven incorrect.

Sobchak 11-18-2013 07:13 PM

Care to actually answer, or are you on your way to radio silence for a while.

Carl[/QUOTE]


Sorta like your non answer to several Tanksley 20 questions?


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