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zoomiezombie 11-19-2013 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1523487)
You being on a trip now has nothing to do with being one of the "volunteers" on flight pay loss. It only means you're posting for free today.

Carl

Yawn. Discredit and feign indignation is all you know how to do. Feel free to PM me the schedule of the person you think I am....or is that cyber stalking?

JungleBus 11-19-2013 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1523474)
Cool video of Jughead going back in time to get even with some guys who spoke poorly of the 717. Warning, if you didn't like Pulp Fiction do not watch: NSFW.

Now this is how you use a GoPro

Only critique: Should have spent more time on these girls.

https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/sa...&sw=640&sh=334

Why are we talking DPA vs ALPA right now? This video is 100% awesome...before these girls make an appearance and push it to 108%!

tsquare 11-19-2013 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1523464)
Then ALPA should bring it. I'll look forward to that.


My guess is they will wait until they are assured they will win. ;)

Carl Spackler 11-19-2013 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1523576)
My guess is they will wait until they are assured they will win. ;)

Actually, I heard ALPA's waiting for Obamacare to work properly before they file.

In either case, the answer is ... One long wait.

Carl "You are one amazing man" - tsquare

Bucking Bar 11-19-2013 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1523455)
DPA is not yet the union of Delta pilots. DPA has a duty to defend itself from attack as does any entity. When DPA officially represents Delta pilots, then your point becomes valid.

Carl

Carl,

Charcter is doing the right thing when you are not going to be held to account. Your argument is that the DPA can engage in "turning pilots in" because it does not officially have the duty to defend ... and that is true. It also says volumes about the DPA's judgement and ethics.

So, the DPA will do what it is ethically and morally required to do, only when it has a fiduciary duty to do so.

The DPA should admit it called this wrong. The DPA claims ALPA to self serving ... well, how would you charaterize the DPA's behavior.

As for your hypothetical; I expect ALPA has considered security and takes responsibility for it's web site.

As for me, I want a vote as soon as possible. I want to put the DPA behind us, concentrate on Contract 2015 and getting the US Air / American pilots on board.

Carl Spackler 11-19-2013 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1523589)
Carl,

Charcter is doing the right thing when you are not going to be held to account. Your argument is that the DPA can engage in "turning pilots in" because it does not officially have the duty to defend ... and that is true. It also says volumes about the DPA's judgement and ethics.

That is your twisted logic Bar, not mine. Character is obeying the law. Had DPA tried to settle this between them and the perps, all parties would have broken the law. They would have been guilty of conspiracy to obstruct justice.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1523589)
So, the DPA will do what it is ethically and morally required to do, only when it has a fiduciary duty to do so.

No, obeying Federal law is required whether or not youre a fiduciary to a union.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1523589)
The DPA should admit it called this wrong. The DPA claims ALPA to self serving ... well, how would you charaterize the DPA's behavior.

Easy. I would characterize their behavior as following Federal law and not obstructing justice.

Carl

Carl Spackler 11-19-2013 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1523589)
As for your hypothetical; I expect ALPA has considered security and takes responsibility for it's web site.

That's got to be the most transparent non-response ever. Here was my question again...so you can see what a non-response that was:


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1523455)
But my question still stands for you Bar. What if I as a strong DPA supporter wanted to move the demise of ALPA along a little faster by hacking into the ALPA national website, then disconnecting the ability to donate to the ALPA PAC? How would ALPA national treat me?

Carl

Carl Spackler 11-19-2013 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1523589)
As for me, I want a vote as soon as possible. I want to put the DPA behind us, concentrate on Contract 2015 and getting the US Air / American pilots on board.

Umm, US Air/American pilots are not coming aboard as ALPA members Bar. That's a guarantee.

Probably best for you to just concentrate on Contract 2015. But how much concentration is required by you to just say yes to management's first offer?

Carl

Hillbilly 11-19-2013 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1523044)
Good question. In the past, at DALPA, we have had a former MEC Chairman, accused of tax evasion and a former LEC Chairman, accused of a scam divorce in order to receive an early pension payout. Both incidents occurred while the parties were in office.

I don't believe DALPA went to bat for them. Does anybody remember?

The former LEC Chairman did receive ALPA representation for his grievance challenging his termination. I do not recall with the other case.

GBU-24 11-19-2013 07:00 PM

Does anyone know the PCS processing order?...ie...what is first...swaps, pickups...PDs...?


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