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DeadHead 11-18-2013 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1522451)

The link isn't working ;)

Boomer 11-18-2013 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1184944)
They had to, PNCL would have liquidated because of lack of assets and zero other DIP financing opportunities. And, Delta couldn't get another operator to feed mainline quickly enough. So, you get to be saved, and shrunk probably. I will vote NO for any increase in your 76 seat fleet, and especially NO for any increase in size of your planes. Sorry.

Lumberg... always a NO voter! +717!!!


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1522478)
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kiteflyer 11-18-2013 08:00 AM

It had nothing to do with the 1998 strike which was at least partly over allowing mesaba to have 36 ARJs limited to 69 seats. CRJ-200s were limited to 44 seats except for some that were coupled to the mainline aircraft count that could be 50 seats. That was undone in bankruptcy, and newco was a major sticking point in the concessions negotiations. As it turns out, the newco (compass was the final name) planes have far more range and viability than the dc-9s they replaced.[/QUOTE]

Well Said 80knots!!!

The 76 seat jet is very capable. I would strike to get them back to mainline.

nwaf16dude 11-18-2013 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1522393)
I was pretty sure that the 757 longbody is the most profitable airframe in the fleet. Seems that that is what we hear at every LCP meeting anyway.

The longbody stat they are always repeating is lowest cost per seat mile, not most profitable. I've also heard that the 747 had the lowest cost per seat mile before they put in the lie-flats and reduced the seat count. Not that it matters much.

Now I'm hearing that they are going to increase the seat count in the 757-200s that are going to stay awhile to something closer to 200.

Dash8widget 11-18-2013 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1522522)
Now I'm hearing that they are going to increase the seat count in the 757-200s that are going to stay awhile to something closer to 200.

I'm hearing that the the 319's, 320's, 757-200's, and 757-300's will all be getting cabin reconfigurations. More seats (and fewer FC seats in the 757's) and fewer galleys. FA's are going to be thrilled.

f10a 11-18-2013 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 1522536)
FA's are going to be thrilled.

FA's might have to actually work. What a concept!

Herkflyr 11-18-2013 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by f10a (Post 1522555)
FA's might have to actually work. What a concept!

Good point--to a point. As it is the company overloads them with minimal staffing, which is unfair to everyone. I flew a completely full 757 ATL-UIO, business class meal service in FC and hot meal in coach--all with four FAs. That's not fair to anyone, including the pax in the back who don't get anything for two hours.

In earlier eras, DAL staffed 757s with six FAs, then went down to five, now routinely staff with FAA mins of four. If the FAA allowed it I have no doubt that they would staff a 747 with one.

Scoop 11-18-2013 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1522568)
Good point--to a point. As it is the company overloads them with minimal staffing, which is unfair to everyone. I flew a completely full 757 ATL-UIO, business class meal service in FC and hot meal in coach--all with four FAs. That's not fair to anyone, including the pax in the back who don't get anything for two hours.

In earlier eras, DAL staffed 757s with six FAs, then went down to five, now routinely staff with FAA mins of four. If the FAA allowed it I have no doubt that they would staff a 747 with one.


Herk,

You are right but DAL is giving our passengers what they want. People always complain about lack of service by airlines but mostly purchase based on only one thing............price. At times airlines have tried to charge a little more for a better product and people would not pay for it.

It was easy to be critical of DAL when we were losing billions but a little harder now that we are making billions. I agree it makes it harder for the FAs but that is no different to what is happening to most employees in most industries, including us.

If the pax in the back truly don't like it they will not come back. If we keep that flight full then I assume that they are OK with it.

Scoop

NuGuy 11-18-2013 09:41 AM

From what I recall, there just weren't that many 757-300s built. NWA got a batch, CAL got some, and so did ATA. Only the NWA birds had Pratts.

Nu

exeagle 11-18-2013 10:11 AM

Is there a way to look at old rotations you've flown in icrew? Every time I try the rotation function it says no data.


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