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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 1429830)
I think in this instance ALPA was thinking like a business. Perhaps airline management or a consultant said that overall, ALPA will get more dues $$$ and more political power by expanding the regionals.
ie - rather than say (completely made up numbers) 20,000 well paid pilots, 40,000 pilots who are paid moderate wages will result in more dues $$$ and more power for ALPA.
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1429776)
ALPA had (and has) a role in the furlough of Delta pilots and the "regionalization" of work rules. They both stem from ALPA leaders who allowed and fought for a different, lower, standard of Delta pilot called Delta Connection.
The furloughs of the last decade were completely unnecessary and avoidable. Delta hired more pilots within Delta's brand than were furloughed. ALPA failed by breaking unity. ALPA has not learned from the mistakes of the past, yet. We should be fighting for one, higher standard, for all pilots. Not separating those within the class and craft of Delta pilots.
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1430051)
A vast majority of the growth was at NON-ALPA DCI anyway!
ACA - gone (ALPA) CMR - gone (ALPA) XJT - LAX DCI terminated (ALPA) ASA - pretty much stable, some growth (ALPA) MESA - DCI cancelled (ALPA) CPZ - mostly stable sized (~100 pilot growth) (ALPA) PNCL - shrinking (ALPA) MSA - shrunk and merged (ALPA) SKYW- lots of growth (non union) GOJET- new DCI. (Non-ALPA) CHQ - lots of growth (non-ALPA) shuttle Amer. - lots of growth (non-ALPA) The posters above are discussing primarily the post 2001 period. As your data above clearly shows, ALPA led the way in outsourcing mainline flying and those pilot's jobs with 8 large regionals represented by ALPA. The 4 new regionals that you're highlighting now in an attempt to shift focus away from ALPA's complicity, actually makes another point. It shows the complete failure of the Moak doctrine of gaining ALPA members as being the key to ALPA's future strength. All it's done is highlight the whipsaw of the old shrinking ALPA regionals that started it all, by the new non-ALPA regionals. An ALPA fail on all fronts...and a management win on all fronts. That is of course unless there is no difference between ALPA and airline managements. If the Moak doctrine is really nothing more than giving managements what they say they need, and hope benefits trickle down to pilots, then I guess we're all seeing the trickling of this experiment. Carl |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1430336)
Shiznit,
An ALPA fail on all fronts...and a management win on all fronts. Carl Hey, got to take good news where we find it. :) |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1430321)
Yes, I don't know the details though. They gave RA a car to drive around atl airport in.
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If I was a young buck, I would look to get hired at the Major with the LONGEST upgrade time! Everything ebbs & flows. Time to jump in when it first starts to flow.
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Originally Posted by Herman
(Post 1430298)
Me too. Where's Ten?
Ten |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1430321)
Yes, I don't know the details though. They gave RA a car to drive around atl airport in.
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1430442)
Yo, Mesabah! Do you know how many guys are left to flow from your list?
Thanks! |
C-series
From BBC report...Paris Airshow
Canada's Bombardier is within days of the first test flight of its much-anticipated C-Series aircraft, arguably the most serious potential rival in the 100-200 seat narrow-body, or single-aisle, market dominated by Airbus's A320 and Boeing's 737. |
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1430442)
Yo, Mesabah! Do you know how many guys are left to flow from your list?
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1430009)
Porsche is building its customer test track within walking distance of DAL HQ. It's worth it to do one of their driving experiences they offer there.
I noticed they started working on the site again. What a distraction on short final! Here is a pic of my new German mistress. She is only 17 and has 64000 miles on her. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-a...sk/I/image.jpg |
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