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dalad 06-18-2013 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale (Post 1430001)
I just received an email from two of my 2010 classmates. Both were hired by UAL. One is at Indoc and the other is getting ready to start. That makes 6 guys from my class who left DAL. 2 - UAL 2 - FDX and 2 - SWA
Wow....

SWA isn't even interviewing, another BS story.

get there itis 06-18-2013 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1430037)
SWA isn't even interviewing, another BS story.

They left for SW last year, when they were hiring. The 2 left for FedEx shortly after starting here a couple years ago. I know we have 2010 hires who are applying & interviewing at UAL. The story is 100% true.

shiznit 06-18-2013 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by DAWGS (Post 1429959)
You are correct that a union that wasn't conflicted with one of its groups benefitting at the cost of another, would certainly have done a better job! Side letter after side letter after LOA bought the company all the time they desired and the rest was gravy. It was a small group that was forced back and received back pay. I received neither while the pilot rolls doubled at DCI. Was that you shiz saving our bacon? If so thanks shiz....how did we ever avoid BK??...oh wait:rolleyes:

Yeah you're right, "unconflicted" IPA and APA did so well for their furloughs. The massive increase at DCI was mostly to non-ALPA pilot groups, that didn't "help" ALPA or any of us in the last decade.

Nobody saved the company from BK, and no union could save a company from BK... If I'm wrong please show me a good example.

Poor management leads to bankruptcy, keep your blame in the right place.

CAAC ATP 06-18-2013 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by get there itis (Post 1430038)
They left for SW last year, when they were hiring. The 2 left for FedEx shortly after starting here a couple years ago. I know we have 2010 hires who are applying & interviewing at UAL. The story is 100% true.

I'll corroborate this post that since 2010 I know of the two that left for SWA and at least one for FedEx

I would say this is valid information.

sinca3 06-18-2013 04:51 AM

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shiznit 06-18-2013 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1429940)
What about per seat though? Especially with the MD90?

Not sure what you're asking....

I was quantifiying the previous poster's assertion that ALPA would benefit more from 40,000 "moderately" paid pilots(RJ), versus 20,000 "highly" paid pilots (mainline). I contend that is not the case.

A vast majority of the growth was at NON-ALPA DCI anyway!
ACA - gone (ALPA)
CMR - gone (ALPA)
XJT - LAX DCI terminated (ALPA)
ASA - pretty much stable, some growth (ALPA)
MESA - DCI cancelled (ALPA)
CPZ - mostly stable sized (~100 pilot growth) (ALPA)
PNCL - shrinking (ALPA)
MSA - shrunk and merged (ALPA)

SKYW- lots of growth (non union)
GOJET- new DCI. (Non-ALPA)
CHQ - lots of growth (non-ALPA)
shuttle Amer. - lots of growth (non-ALPA)

JungleBus 06-18-2013 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1429544)
They won't factor into any argument here, so what's the big deal?

I'm saving this gem for 2015.

NuGuy 06-18-2013 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1430004)
UAL can be a crapshoot-they are just beginning the synergy process that we did back 5 years ago... FDX is probably not a bad call... but SWA??

If you stick around here, you'll be a 767 captain before they even make senior FO...

If you're doing it because you can live in a base, that's probably not a terrible deal. The money saved, time saved, better overall QOL and OT opportunities by living in base is more than "significant", especially if it's a giant base like IAH, ORD or DEN.

If you're making the jump because of a small base, then that's probably not such a great trade, since we all know those ebb and flow.

It's a gamble, to be sure.

Nu

boog123 06-18-2013 05:49 AM

When does scheduling usually assign short calls, in the morning or a little before 3? It's been a while.

dalad 06-18-2013 05:53 AM

[QUOTE=Avgwhitemale;1430001]I just received an email from two of my 2010 classmates. Both were hired by UAL. One is at Indoc and the other is getting ready to start. That makes 6 guys from my class who left DAL. 2 - UAL 2 - FDX and 2 - SWA
Wow....[/
My apologies as I completely misinterpreted this post as being a very recent occurence. When I was a new hire we had a guy in another class leave for SWA and it was unprecedented back then as DAL was on the Forbes list of best company's to work for. We also had furloughees in the early 90's who got hired at FDX and UPS who subsequently quit those jobs to get recalled at DAL in 1996. Look how that decision has turned out for them.


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