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Carl Spackler 06-06-2013 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1423205)
Be it RJ or widebody, domestic or international, if management wants to put our code on it or sell tickets on it or share revenue on it, then Moak and his disciples in DALPA will find a way. That is his history and there is no sign he plans to change strategy any time soon.

Yes indeed. And today reveals the latest example.

Carl

FL370 06-06-2013 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1423646)
Looks like to dispel them. :)

I should have myself clearer, why is Timbo so insistent on bringing up false rumors? Both of those rumors are false, and yes, I had the same training in 2008 as he did in 2005. Didn't get lost on the tracks, not even once. :rolleyes:

FL370 06-06-2013 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1423211)
I would be pretty surprised by that - there is a reason that no one flies DC9/717s west of Denver. I believe there are driftdown requirements that can't be met by that type of airplane. We had this problem at a previous airline.

Does the 717 have less performance than the MD? If memory serves me correct, there was a base somewhere in mountainous terrain filled with 88s and 90s... Is the 717 less capable than CRJ200s and EMB145s? I seem to notice these airplanes all over the West coast.

I know a guy, who knows a guy, who said a maintenance guy told him there may be a 717 base in SEA (just to pour some fuel to the fire.)

Carl Spackler 06-06-2013 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1423273)
So why would the company displace pilots only to have them bid right back up Carl?

Because in all probability, those positions won't be available for them to "bounce back" to. They'll likely "advance" to lower paying equipment. That's what happens when you have a large surplus of pilots and a reduction in block hours.


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1423273)
Oh that's right. Because they need to hire, but aren't allowed to.

No, they don't need to hire...that's why they didn't. It's very simple really.

Carl

qball 06-06-2013 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=FL370;1423662]Does the 717 have less performance than the MD? If memory serves me correct, there was a base somewhere in mountainous terrain filled with 88s and 90s... Is the 717 less capable than CRJ200s and EMB145s? I seem to notice these airplanes all over the West coast.

Allegiant seems to do OK out of LAS with MD80's.
My guess is the 717 is a better performer than the 88 and I doubt there is anything LESS capable than the CRJ200.

80ktsClamp 06-06-2013 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1423663)
Because in all probability, those positions won't be available for them to "bounce back" to. They'll likely "advance" to lower paying equipment. That's what happens when you have a large surplus of pilots and a reduction in block hours.



No, they don't need to hire...that's why they didn't. It's very simple really.

Carl

Just to be fair, Carl: There was no mention in a change of the planned hiring early 2014. Just that no hiring this year has been approved, which has been the case all along.

It is quite obvious that the positions to "bounce back to" will be in the form of 739s or equivalent.

Carl Spackler 06-06-2013 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1423514)
Scope Improvement Opportunity. That e-mail sets a new standard for double-speak.

I wish my union would quit trying to baffle me with bull$hit.
Management violated the scope clause and once again we decided to allow it.
Just frikkin' say it.

Isn't that something? Imagine how hard it is to spend your time spinning and misinforming.

This January we measure the block hour ratio between mainline and DCI for the first time since our new contract was signed. If management is out of compliance, they'll have until July 2014 to correct the imbalance. I don't know about you, but I sense another opportunity to improve Scope! :rolleyes:

Carl

Carl Spackler 06-06-2013 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1423677)
Just to be fair, Carl: There was no mention in a change of the planned hiring early 2014. Just that no hiring this year has been approved, which has been the case all along.

It is quite obvious that the positions to "bounce back to" will be in the form of 739s or equivalent.

Wish I could agree with you man, I really do. But all I see is few retirements, block hour shrinkage, and hundreds of guys on MLOA and furlough bypass. Everything else is just words from "planning".

Carl

FL370 06-06-2013 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1423691)
Wish I could agree with you man, I really do. But all I see is few retirements, block hour shrinkage, and hundreds of guys on MLOA and furlough bypass. Everything else is just words from "planning".

Carl

I see the same thing, however, I also get "Inverse assignment" calls at least twice a week - started back in March. Good thing I am a heavy sleeper as they almost always occur at midnight - 2 am...

forgot to bid 06-06-2013 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1423501)
I just read that.

"The company failed to keep to the contractual amount of NRT flying, so we let them count HND as well so they would be back in compliance without actually changing any of their plan."

.... improvement, how?

That is some serious spin!

You know what'd be fun, if for one night Carl or Purple or gloop or jack had to be the DALPA apologist of the day and explain this one away. :D


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