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Just got an e-mail from DALPA.
We have apparently agreed to waive our scope clause. Again.

But the title of the e-mail is "Scope Improvement Opportunity".

Priceless.

80ktsClamp

06-06-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1423498)

Just got an e-mail from DALPA.
We have apparently agreed to waive our scope clause. Again.

But the title of the e-mail is "Scope Improvement Opportunity".

Priceless.

I just read that.

"The company failed to keep to the contractual amount of NRT flying, so we let them count HND as well so they would be back in compliance without actually changing any of their plan."

.... improvement, how?

That is some serious spin!

80ktsClamp

06-06-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1423495)

Check your email inboxes for something from DALPA about Seniority List Instructors, new today.

I'm guessing there was some uproar over the very junior 744 SLIs that triggered that?

Check Essential

06-06-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1423501)

I just read that.

"The company failed to keep to the contractual amount of NRT flying, so we let them count HND as well."

.... improvement, how?

Scope Improvement Opportunity. That e-mail sets a new standard for double-speak.

I wish my union would quit trying to baffle me with bull$hit.
Management violated the scope clause and once again we decided to allow it.
Just frikkin' say it.

finis72

06-06-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1423453)

In 2008, if you were going to the ER, you did the full domestic 767 course, and then there were 2 (or 3?) oceanic sims tacked on after your 767 LOE.

After that, you did a full 767 domestic OE followed by TOE.

That's the way it was ever since I got on International. I don't know about the 767 school now but it was that way in the time frame you're talking about.

newKnow

06-06-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1423219)

There is a DC9 line on the US/Canada map in Chapter 8 of the airway manual. I always wondered what that was for (NewK?). Even still, the DC9 with its turbojets and the 717 with its turbo fans probably do not share the same driftdown parameters.

Yes sir,

I have taken the mighty DC-9 to Canada and the Western U.S.

* All the way to Winnipeg from MSP.
* To MZJ for its final flight.

Neither were over the "real mountains." (We went way south before heading west to MZJ.)

When I first checked out on the DC-9 in 2001 we did have to learn driftdown stuff, but I don't think I ever put it into practice being based in DTW.

Timbo

06-06-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1423502)

I'm guessing there was some uproar over the very junior 744 SLIs that triggered that?

I don't know what triggered it, but that was mentioned.

Tab Flyer

06-06-2013 02:18 PM

On Airliners.net a new thread talks about the LAX T4/T5 tunnel reopenning soon.
Would it not be ironic if we helped AS move to the south side and they end up connecting most of their PAXs to AA, while using / blocking our gates.
The tunnel was closed after 911, but has not reopened (rumored) because of some DL/AA rift. But now with their new pilot contract, it could be that AS will be flying more of AA's domestic schedule.

Jughead

06-06-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1423194)

Heard a really oddball rumor from my Dal Mx buddy about 717s finding their way to LA

Hmmm...oddball fer sure. The only L.A. the 717 is going to is Mobile. And Panama City, which is just about the same as L.A.

newKnow

06-06-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 1423547)

Hmmm...oddball fer sure. The only L.A. the 717 is going to is Mobile. And Panama City, which is just about the same as L.A.

No chance some 717 flying could get based out there to fly up and down the coast?