I'm getting really tired of DALPA using fear to justify their actions.
They always seem to be telling us we have to vote for their concessionary deals because we should be very afraid what management or the govt or the judge or whoever might do to us if we don't capitulate and go along with the program.

The company is solidly profitable yet we are still working for essentially the bankruptcy contract plus some COLA.
And to get that little 4,8,3,3 COLA we had to give huge productivity concessions.

Isn't it about time to get up off our knees?

Why does DALPA continue to do business in an entirely reactionary, defensive manner? We have some bargaining power here. Why not stand up? Is it intentional? Is it Moak?

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Don't know of you have figured it out yet, but I just completed 88 normal re-qual and you do not have to do an ESV. I was also confused with the letter and called the training manager to confirm.

I honestly do not know how much money is involved. Someone ran some napkin math and it seems pretty viable and insignificant to me... I don't know enough about all this really other than what my rep told me. All I am saying is to wind a watch and let's see what we have here before going all ballistic.

I actually haven't taken either him or Carl off ignore, but sometimes there is a little bird that says.... read it. Sometimes he is interesting, but Carl is... well.... not. :p

Who said anything about my union? Just saying you like, love, enjoy, to use fear tactics when addressing your agenda.

I am, like pilots should be, risk averse. I refuse to go off half cocked, flamethrower in hand until I have all the facts. I do not have them yet except for one. That is not enough evidence for me to pull the fire handle. I have no "agenda". I am merely expressing my opinion. You can do whatever you want. You have a vote on anything, same as I. You don't like what is going on? Good. Call your rep and tell him about it. Just like I did. If you insist on saying that my position is the use of fear tactics, I will refer to yours as arrogance and condescension. I will give you credit for referring to it as your union though.

NRT fallout
 

I know asking a forward looking question here on APC is like asking a group of hookers the going rate, but with the NRT stuff in the background along with the open AE about to close, how does NRT impact the next year or so as far as manning and domiciles......

Ferris?

Means hiring will be delayed again and us 2010 hires will still be referred to as probies.

Ugh let's hope not!!! I will be 60 before I get into the left seat!

Actually, I'm pretty sure "newhire" goes all the way back to 2007. :)

It could be worse. Our F/As used to refer to new 727 S/Os as "baby pilots". :D