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Originally Posted by orvil
(Post 1523044)
Good question. In the past, at DALPA, we have had a former MEC Chairman, accused of tax evasion and a former LEC Chairman, accused of a scam divorce in order to receive an early pension payout. Both incidents occurred while the parties were in office.
I don't believe DALPA went to bat for them. Does anybody remember? The difference is between reasoned omission, versus commission. The DPA leadership is nuts enough to think this leads back to ALPA and there is something they can use for political gain. IMHO, that's the kind of politics (involving the cops) that we don't need. Pilot on pilot prosecution? Given that the DPA may be screwing the pilots' employment (Delta is hiring pilots and needs staffing) the DPA may be unwittingly picking a fight with Delta management. Delta probably does not want pilots going outside the Company to try to get other employees in trouble over a matter of union politics. Management , by law they have to deal with whoever represents the Delta pilots and does not have a dog in that fight, but if people don't come to work, then it becomes a management problem. Again, the DPA appears to be making bad decisions based on emotive reaction rather than strategic thought, JMHO. |
Originally Posted by full of luv
(Post 1523020)
And as we near the 50th anniversary of JFK's shooting, imagine what would have happened during 2012's Democratic convention if he were to stand up and give his inaugural speech and say:
"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." The Democratic party would run him out of the house with Boos and hisses and accuse him of being some Tea Party extremist. Sad what has become of our federal government in 50 years!:( |
Originally Posted by LeineLodge
(Post 1523079)
Also, didn't we pull down SFO-NRT a few months ago? I can't remember for sure, but if so this probably just helps everyone's yield from their respective west coast hubs.
Of course I'm more interested in yield improvements where they don't cost pilot block hours - hopefully that SFO-NRT time was re-allocated somewhere else. out... in... the... cold.... |
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So what other felonies(crimes), hypothetically speaking, should we over look if committed by a fellow pilot? BTW, not a dpa supporter. The recent behavior of some of our elected reps(and more so, unelected committee types and their supporters) has pushed me closer to center, the dpa supporters and hierarchy push me off center the other way. We need adults running what ever union we have, not career fpl types or angry alpa haters.
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1523134)
There is a big difference between taking no action on a matter that does not involve a pilot's professional duties and the sort of attempt at malicious prosection the DPA is attempting.
The difference is between reasoned omission, versus commission. The DPA leadership is nuts enough to think this leads back to ALPA and there is something they can use for political gain. IMHO, that's the kind of politics (involving the cops) that we don't need. Pilot on pilot prosecution? Given that the DPA may be screwing the pilots' employment (Delta is hiring pilots and needs staffing) the DPA may be unwittingly picking a fight with Delta management. Delta probably does not want pilots going outside the Company to try to get other employees in trouble over a matter of union politics. Management , by law they have to deal with whoever represents the Delta pilots and does not have a dog in that fight, but if people don't come to work, then it becomes a management problem. Again, the DPA appears to be making bad decisions based on emotive reaction rather than strategic thought, JMHO. |
Seriously don't see how any thinking person can defend not prosecuting someone who has committed a federal crime. If this is true, it's a no-brainer. DPA or no DPA.
I too sent in a DPA card, but did not renew... I still would prefer an independent union, but could not stomach the individuals involved. The very sad thing is, after 26yrs, I don't have an organization that represents me... I mean 3% (among many other things)... really... after the largest pilot compensation losses in airline history?... ridiculous! |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1523150)
The arrogance of these Arab sheiks never ceases to amaze me. This "positioning" of Middle Eastern Airlines is more about pride rather than sound business maneuvering. Not trying to turn this into a political thing here, but as I understand it: Congress voted to disallow establishment of a pre-clearance check point in Abu-Dhabi, but the president met with one of the Arab sheiks and decided to approve the project/reverse the decision. |
Originally Posted by full of luv
(Post 1523020)
And as we near the 50th anniversary of JFK's shooting, imagine what would have happened during 2012's Democratic convention if he were to stand up and give his inaugural speech and say:
"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." The Democratic party would run him out of the house with Boos and hisses and accuse him of being some Tea Party extremist. Sad what has become of our federal government in 50 years!:( I understand that each event involved politicians, but sometimes it's best to appreciate things for what that mean to us as Americans beyond the political sphere. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1523150)
Thanks Bar. Funny, the article didn't mention the APA, SWAPA, or DPA as doing anything to lobby against this, it only mentioned ALPA. That's why I still support ALPA PAC, warts and all. |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1523105)
As someone who does a lot of public speaking, this has always been my favorite speech. It was only 271 words in length, and took Lincoln a total of 2 minutes to complete. Ironically, this is one of the lines in the speech: "The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here." Lincoln could never have imagined how wrong he was about the most amazing speech ever given.
Carl I can't think of a better speech. |
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