Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1534014)

Bar-
I like the rear end of the new Mustangs but I'm not thrilled with the new grills.


http://autoweek.com/storyimage/CW/20...ew-Mustang.jpg

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1534164)

OK guys, but what leverage/incentive/cajoling/arm twisting can you use to get DALPA to actually do what the vast majority of us want? This latest letter from the current MEC is a waving red flag as to what's coming in our next TA. Another contract that doesn't lead our industry in one single area, threats of complete doom if you don't vote YES, and great promise for C2018.

What are you going to do to change this dynamic? We have about 16 months.

Carl

Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1534092)

Originally Posted by finis72
A little side bet, betcha with that " massive " pay raise they don't make it to our level, I hope they way surpass us but I don't believe they will.



Ok, here you go finis:

THE USAIRWAYS MERGER TRANSITION AGREEMENT

Effective on the the date of P.O.R. Which is 12/9/13.

First, some work rules.

This agreement provides for a 1:2 for sit times in excess of two hours.

Distance learning: 50% of hourly rate.
Training: 4:00 per day. (Delta 3:45)

Defined contribution: Currently 14%
January 2014: 16%
Delta: 15%

Sick:
5 hours accrued per month
60 short term banked
940 long terms bank
1000 total and with rollover.
Allowed to sell back.

Rapid re-accrual of 7.5 hrs if out more than 30 days
United has 7hrs
Delta no rapid re-accrual, no rollover, no sell back and capped at 270 max.

Home basing in cities that support it.

COMPENSATION: All 12 year rates. 777 rates reflect group 4 which include 777, 767-4, 787, 340.

Next week on POR, the first raise.
A320 capt. 167.68. F/O 114.02
B777 capt. 213.02. F/O 144.00

January 2014. 8% increase.

A320 capt. 181.00. F/O 123.14
B777 capt. 230.06. F/O 156.44

January 2015. 3% increase.

A320 capt. 186.53. F/O 236.06
B777 capt. 236.00. F/O 161.00

January 2016. 16.5% increase.

A320 capt. 217.24. F/O 147.72
B777 capt. 275.98. F/O 187.67

If needed, on January 2017 a 3.5% increase. On January 2018, a 3.5% increase.

Why if needed you might ask? Here is the rest of the story.

From the MTA:

"MTA provides parity review that compares DAL and UAL as of January 1, 2016. The parity review will use the average of the DAL and UAL pay rates of the A320 and the 737-800 aircraft weighted for the ASM's flown by each airline."

The other groups will be adjusted from there.

Now, when the APA (USAPA will be offered a seat at the table along with the west pilots) negotiates their JCBA, these numbers can change. Likely up, not expecting down.

Other considerations. AMR pilots getting near $100k each from their portion of the company on exit/merger. Frozen DB plans.

LCC pilots portion of merger bonus 10-15k.

I will let you all discuss this without adding my own commentary.

Decide for yourselves how well the APA and USAPA guys did.
You all can do the math. Particularly on the wide body from 2016 on.

Someone is going to as about overtime

Premium pay is here:

. Premium Pay
1. In accordance with Section 15.L., the Company may designate at any time any sequence as
a premium pay sequence. Such sequence(s) willpay a premium of fifty percent (50%) over
the pilot's base hourly pay rate as specified in Section 3 (total is the base rate plus fifty
percent of the base rate), including international override as applicable.
2. Premium pay may be applied to an entire sequence, or portion of a sequence, as applicable
in the Agreement.
3. A sequence picked-up from open time (TTS) which is designated as a premium pay
sequence will have the fifty percent (50%) premium applied to all flown hours including any
Pay and Credit in the sequence. A pilot pay protected for a premium pay sequence who is
assigned replacement flying willbe pay protected for the value of a cancelled premium
sequence at the premium rate. In the event the credited time of the replacement flying is
greater than the credited value of the cancelled flying, the pilot will be paid for the additional
time at the regular hourly rate.
Example: If the credited value of the cancelled sequence is 8 hours, the pilot will be pay
protected for 12 hours. If the credited time of the replacement flying is 10 hours, the pilot will
be paid an additional 2 hours at the regular hourly rate, for a total of 14 hours.
4. A pilot awarded or assigned a premium pay sequence will be pay protected for the scheduled
value of the sequence, including the fifty percent (50%) premium.
5. A premium pay sequence that is traded to another pilot will have the premium designation
removed and such sequence will be paid at the base hourly pay rate.
6. Premium pay will not apply in the event a pilot does not operate the premium sequence due
to any voluntary action by the pilot, i.e calling in sick, fatigued, drops or trades the sequence
to another pilot. Premium pay will apply in the event a pilot does not operate the premium
sequence due to Company actions such as a reassignment, displacement, or any other
Company-enacted removal. Premium pay will apply to any removal that qualifies for
Sequence Protection as described in Section 4.C.
7. Recovery obligation replacement flyingdue to sequence cancellation and reserve
assignments will be paid at regular hourly pay rates. Premium pay does not apply to such
assignments.
8. Premium hours flown in the same month that a pilot uses sick leave will be offset by the
number of sick hours charged. Any remaining premium hours after the offset is applied will be
paid at the premium rate.
Example: A pilot uses sick leave for a 10 hours during the month. In the same month, the pilot
picks up 12 hours of premium sequence(s) (12 hours credit, 18 hours pay). For the purpose
of calculating the net premium pay for the month, subtract the total sick hours used from the
total premium hours. In this example the pilot’s premium pay for the month will be the 12
hours of premium sequence(s) reduced by the 10 sick hours used, leaving 2 hours to be paid
at 1.5 X, for a total of 1 hour additional pay (13 hours total pay for the premium sequence(s).
9. Premium hours flown will be uncredited towards a pilot's IMAX, but will be applied towards
FAR limitations. The pilot's PPROJ will be adjusted to include the fifty percent (50%)
premium.
10. Reassignment - if a pilot is reassigned outside the footprint of the pilot's original sequence,
the fifty percent (50%) premium is pay only. The pilot will be credited with the greater of
scheduled or what was actually flown. The premium does not apply to any additional credits
under 15.E., 15.F. or 15.Gthat were generated solely as a result of the reassignment

Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 1534202)

Isn't this all good news? UsAir has been such a drag on our profession for years and they've finally caught up and past us in some areas. This should help us out next year as we move ahead to be out in front of everyone else again.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1531167)

It is true that 600 is the official word from flight ops now. I have not heard 800 yet from the kremlin, but that would not be surprising.

A maximum of about 100 of those can be Compass, and a slightly larger portion will be Endeavor. They strive to have at least a 65/35% ratio of civilian to military. That leaves quite a bit of room for those wanting to get hired, particularly if the number increases above 600.

Not sure what you mean by hiring from the inside... there are very few intra-company transfers to flight ops.

Good luck with your flying!

Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1534189)

Because ALPA is currently our bargaining agent(whether you're a DPA supporter or not) and most likely will be going into C2015, you need to write your reps to support A.A. next week. Then the MEC needs to allow him to put into place a team that is unified in working with him vs undermining from the beginning like K.R. If it means cleaning house of the old guard, so be it. Some of them will come around and can be useful, some won't change and must be sent back to the line.

Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1534210)

So SWA gets 12 more LGA slots as part of AMR merger. How do they still have the public fooled into believing they are a low cost carrier?

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1534124)

Had to laugh, not at you, but just laugh....I came to check the thread and saw you had the most recent post. I just knew you were commenting on what I posted. Which is fine, but I knew it.

It's kind of like I just know no one from (D)ALPA is going to say the union has made a mistake in the past (fill in the blank) years. 6? (at least since I've been here. Can you recall any acknowledgement of regret on anything? Batting 1.000

I mean, I'd be willing to be more open to their DPA criticism if they'd look in the mirror and be honest just once in a while. But in ALPA land it's "We're the shinning knight, and that Orc over there wants to castrate you."