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Doug Masters 02-01-2014 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1571683)
I think we could find an expat joint but it's going to be 7:30 in the morning!!:eek: If we can find one open at that time, I'm willing if you are!!!:D

Denny

If your watch says 5pm or later you can start the jager shots.....just sayin. Have fun guys!

JungleBus 02-01-2014 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by fisherpilot (Post 1571884)
What's a big bang for the buck sailboat that a family of 4 could spend a weekend on the lake? I've always had a thing for sailboats and used to drool over the Hunter models, but then became a pilot so that's literally out water...... My only experience is in a Hobie Cat 14 and even that was an experiment. I'm thinking about taking a sailing course on Lanier and renting some this summer. I'm a hobbiest woodworker and thought it would be cool to take a classic wooden boat and restore it...

Timbo's Catalina 22 suggeston is an excellent one, it's the classic trailer-sailor & a perfect daysailor for 4-5; a bit small for weekending with 4 but fine if the kids are small (has a v-berth in the bow big enough for two adults to sleep in, and two quarterberths on the aft sides of the cabin suitable mainly for kids). There are other comparable fiberglass models to keep an eye out for (local craigslist is good source, also Sailboat Listings - sailboats for sale and Sailboats for sale from Sailing Texas, buy or sell your sailboat, free sailboat ads.)... I have a Santana 21, very similar to C22. MacGregor/Venture boats are decent trailer-sailors excluding the 26M, my in-laws have a MacGregor 25, a bit roomier in cabin and cockpit than C22. San Juan 21/24 is another option. All of above available $<5k in excellent condition, as cheap as <$1k needing some work. There are various similar but less popular types, look for swing keel or retractable centerboard if you're planning to keep it on a trailer in the backyard. If you have access to affordable dockage or mooring & want to keep it in the water, your options go up a bit. Catalina 25 is a good family boat.

You don't need to know how to sail before buying a boat, but it may well save you some money and grief. Basic sailing courses (ASA101 or equivalent) tend to be fairly cheap, you can knock it out in a couple weekends for $400. Rather than take any of the advanced courses, I'd hang around a yacht club on beer-can-racing night & ask if anyone needs extra crew (someone always does). Be honest that you're a beginner, & you'll learn a ton quickly.

If you go to buy a boat, take a good looking at the standing rigging that holds up the mast. It's expensive to replace and beat up on many trailer sailors because the mast is set up and taken down often. Looking to make sure turnbuckles aren't bent or cracked, the chainplates they connect to are well bedded in the deck & not bent, the stays (wires that hold up mast) don't have any strands coming out...run your hand along them & if you get pricked by loose strands, the stay needs replaced. Take sails out of bags & make sure not ripped or rotten. Old sails are inefficient but fine if you don't race. Ask owner to demonstrate putting mast & rigging up, see how he routes the sail controls; with a family, you don't want an arrangement that really clogs up the cockpit, which can already be small. If it has a swing keel take a *very* good look at the retract cable mechanism, they wear out over time and one breaking is a huge hassle at best and can sink the boat at worst (ask me how I know!).

I'm not hugely familiar with wooden sailboats but most I've seen tend to be quite old, and generally come in two flavors: beautifully restored (& expensive), and complete wrecks. I think there are more that have been kept up in the northeast.

orvil 02-01-2014 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1571828)
You will not effect the pay of another pilot. Research things as best you can. Have the rotation numbers and dates written down. Check them for legality. Checker is in the pcs swap menu. The problem you will have is scheds and I suspect the union scheds guys will be swamped. Wait a few days and give them a call. You should get straight pay for any trips they bypassed you on.


I just spoke with the DALPA scheduling expert. No joy for me, but he did say that he had 55 more inquiries on his call back list. He was working Saturday, too. So, give him a call and get in line. He will get back to you. It took him about 24 hours to get back to me.

Al Czervik 02-01-2014 11:35 AM

No need to worry Denny....

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Purple Drank 02-01-2014 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 1571781)

The MEC Scheduling and Contract Administration Committees put a lot of money in Delta pilot's pockets every year due to their efforts.


you make it sound like they're doing it out of charity. We're paying for that service.

NWARet 02-01-2014 12:04 PM

They can be found for pretty cheap (less than $2,000) and are a good family weekender lake type boat. Most of them have a swing keel so you can retract it, put the boat on a trailer and take it home, vs. spending money for a slip.


Timbo, I have a slip for your Hylas 46. No charge, just let me use it.

Purple Drank 02-01-2014 12:44 PM

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Timbo 02-01-2014 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1572113)


Not so fast!

Jay's replacement, Jimmy Fallon, and his Predicting Puppies say it's Denver!:eek:

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fisherpilot 02-01-2014 12:50 PM

Thanks for the info. I'd prob get one I could do a weekend on if I got one. We have a 4 and 7 yr old now. They are gonna do nothing but grow so the more room the better. Will look at those models as well

as

Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1572111)
Timbo's Catalina 22 suggeston is an excellent one, it's the classic trailer-sailor & a perfect daysailor for 4-5; a bit small for weekending with 4 but fine if the kids are small (has a v-berth in the bow big enough for two adults to sleep in, and two quarterberths on the aft sides of the cabin suitable mainly for kids). There are other comparable fiberglass models to keep an eye out for (local craigslist is good source, also Sailboat Listings - sailboats for sale and Sailboats for sale from Sailing Texas, buy or sell your sailboat, free sailboat ads.)... I have a Santana 21, very similar to C22. MacGregor/Venture boats are decent trailer-sailors excluding the 26M, my in-laws have a MacGregor 25, a bit roomier in cabin and cockpit than C22. San Juan 21/24 is another option. All of above available $<5k in excellent condition, as cheap as <$1k needing some work. There are various similar but less popular types, look for swing keel or retractable centerboard if you're planning to keep it on a trailer in the backyard. If you have access to affordable dockage or mooring & want to keep it in the water, your options go up a bit. Catalina 25 is a good family boat.

You don't need to know how to sail before buying a boat, but it may well save you some money and grief. Basic sailing courses (ASA101 or equivalent) tend to be fairly cheap, you can knock it out in a couple weekends for $400. Rather than take any of the advanced courses, I'd hang around a yacht club on beer-can-racing night & ask if anyone needs extra crew (someone always does). Be honest that you're a beginner, & you'll learn a ton quickly.

If you go to buy a boat, take a good looking at the standing rigging that holds up the mast. It's expensive to replace and beat up on many trailer sailors because the mast is set up and taken down often. Looking to make sure turnbuckles aren't bent or cracked, the chainplates they connect to are well bedded in the deck & not bent, the stays (wires that hold up mast) don't have any strands coming out...run your hand along them & if you get pricked by loose strands, the stay needs replaced. Take sails out of bags & make sure not ripped or rotten. Old sails are inefficient but fine if you don't race. Ask owner to demonstrate putting mast & rigging up, see how he routes the sail controls; with a family, you don't want an arrangement that really clogs up the cockpit, which can already be small. If it has a swing keel take a *very* good look at the retract cable mechanism, they wear out over time and one breaking is a huge hassle at best and can sink the boat at worst (ask me how I know!).

I'm not hugely familiar with wooden sailboats but most I've seen tend to be quite old, and generally come in two flavors: beautifully restored (& expensive), and complete wrecks. I think there are more that have been kept up in the northeast.


gloopy 02-01-2014 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1572089)
How did this turn into a Jude Law thread? :eek:

Hey he started it looking gooooood in those Hungerthon movies or whatever.


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