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buzzpat 01-31-2014 09:11 PM

Hey fellas, quick geen slip question. Who's the proper dog to speak to if you believe you were passed over (overlooked) for a GS or two? Call and run the guantlet of crew scheduling or speak with DALPA. Not trying to bust any of my bros, but looks like I either screwed up royally or didn't get the call for a couple GS's I was senior for. Just curious. Thanks!

Hillbilly 01-31-2014 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1571772)
Hey fellas, quick geen slip question. Who's the proper dog to speak to if you believe you were passed over (overlooked) for a GS or two? Call and run the guantlet of crew scheduling or speak with DALPA. Not trying to bust any of my bros, but looks like I either screwed up royally or didn't get the call for a couple GS's I was senior for. Just curious. Thanks!

I think it works best to call crew scheduling initially and inquire. Ask to speak to a supervisor if necessary. If you don't get an answer that makes sense or they don't take the time to talk to you, call the MEC office and ask to speak to one of the scheduling consultants. Let them know you attempted to sort it out with the company, give them all the details and supporting info you have (screenshots, who you've talked to and when, etc.) and they will research it and let you know if the trip coverage was PWA compliant or not. If not, they will work to get the correct pilot who should have gotten the trip (may not be you) paid for it.

The MEC Scheduling and Contract Administration Committees put a lot of money in Delta pilot's pockets every year due to their efforts.

orvil 02-01-2014 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1571772)
Hey fellas, quick geen slip question. Who's the proper dog to speak to if you believe you were passed over (overlooked) for a GS or two? Call and run the guantlet of crew scheduling or speak with DALPA. Not trying to bust any of my bros, but looks like I either screwed up royally or didn't get the call for a couple GS's I was senior for. Just curious. Thanks!

Call Scheduling at DALPA. You will probably have to leave a message. They will get back to you. I think they are backed up. I'm waiting for a return call myself regarding a GS, too. Just be sure to get screen shots of coverage to support your case.

sailingfun 02-01-2014 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1571772)
Hey fellas, quick geen slip question. Who's the proper dog to speak to if you believe you were passed over (overlooked) for a GS or two? Call and run the guantlet of crew scheduling or speak with DALPA. Not trying to bust any of my bros, but looks like I either screwed up royally or didn't get the call for a couple GS's I was senior for. Just curious. Thanks!

You will not effect the pay of another pilot. Research things as best you can. Have the rotation numbers and dates written down. Check them for legality. Checker is in the pcs swap menu. The problem you will have is scheds and I suspect the union scheds guys will be swamped. Wait a few days and give them a call. You should get straight pay for any trips they bypassed you on.

Timbo 02-01-2014 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1571752)
Amazing what the right people can do with a mere $300 million.

It's GOOD to be Larry Ellison! $300 Million to him is about 30 bucks to you and me.

Wasn't there an old saying about the only difference between men and boys, is the price of their toys? :D

The traditionalist, Monhull Yatch Club types went nutz when Larry said he was going to use 72' catamarans to race for the America's Cup. There were all kinds of nay-sayers who said you can't match race in catamarans, etc. Then they figured out how to make them foil (the Kiwi's actually did it first) and all hell broke loose. It turned into one of the best America's Cup matches ever.

If you saw those foiling C class cats I put the video of a few pages back, they have been foiling for about 10+ years. Larry went and got some of those guys to join his team, and some guys from the foiling Moth class, and some got help from Boeing as well.

Money is no object when you are number 2 or 3 on the World's Richest Man list. ;)

Here's an excellent video which explains how both the AC 72 and the Moth are able to "Fly", done by Nathan Outteridge, two time Moth World Champion. He lives in Detroit now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta12lE7xiSk

Oh, I looked into getting a Moth, so I could fly too. A new one is about $16K and the dealer I spoke with said you do a lot more swimming than actual flying! Nathan makes it look easy, but then the best guys always do!

sailingfun 02-01-2014 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1571833)
It's GOOD to be Larry Ellison! $300 Million to him is about 30 bucks to you and me.

Wasn't there an old saying about the only difference between men and boys, is the price of their toys? :D

The traditionalist, Monhull Yatch Club types went nutz when Larry said he was going to use 72' catamarans to race for the America's Cup. There were all kinds of nay-sayers who said you can't match race in catamarans, etc. Then they figured out how to make them foil (the Kiwi's actually did it first) and all hell broke loose. It turned into one of the best America's Cup matches ever.

If you saw those foiling C class cats I put the video of a few pages back, they have been foiling for about 10+ years. Larry went and got some of those guys to join his team, and some guys from the foiling Moth class, and some got help from Boeing as well.

Money is no object when you are number 2 or 3 on the World's Richest Man list. ;)

Here's an excellent video which explains how both the AC 72 and the Moth are able to "Fly", done by Nathan Outteridge, two time Moth World Champion. He lives in Detroit now.

America's Cup: Nathan Outteridge foiling on his Moth - YouTube

Oh, I looked into getting a Moth, so I could fly too. A new one is about $16K and the dealer I spoke with said you do a lot more swimming than actual flying! Nathan makes it look easy, but then the best guys always do!

Timbo, if you want a very fun boat, and at a reasonable price used consider a 29er. Very fast planing hull. Great for smaller lakes and can do 20 plus knots.

Timbo 02-01-2014 05:00 AM

Thanks but I've already got 3 catamarans in my back yard that don't get used enough! I'd like to sell my Formula 16 racing cat and 'retire' to a Corsair F28R Trimaran, race with the old men over in Sarasota, cruise in the Keys, but I've got to get four kids -off- my payroll first!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfqRKQrDvWU

Why a Corsair F28?? Because I'll never be able to afford this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP985PjMGts

;^)

Timbo 02-01-2014 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1571848)
Timbo, if you want a very fun boat, and at a reasonable price used consider a 29er. Very fast planing hull. Great for smaller lakes and can do 20 plus knots.

When those first came out, about 10(?) years ago, I did call a dealer because I was thinking of putting my kids on one, but back then they were about $6K (new), and Delta was going bankrupt, cutting our pay 42%, etc. so it never happened. In fact I had to sell my Nacra 20 and Piper Cub to adjust to the new pay rates. :rolleyes:

I got a Hobie 14 and Prindle 18 for my kids, cheap, $500 each, out of neighbor's backyards where they'd been sitting unused for years.

Here's a good website if any of you are looking for cheap, used catamarans

http://www.thebeachcats.com/classifi...-for-sale.html

And there's always Craigs List.

fisherpilot 02-01-2014 05:44 AM

What's a big bang for the buck sailboat that a family of 4 could spend a weekend on the lake? I've always had a thing for sailboats and used to drool over the Hunter models, but then became a pilot so that's literally out water...... My only experience is in a Hobie Cat 14 and even that was an experiment. I'm thinking about taking a sailing course on Lanier and renting some this summer. I'm a hobbiest woodworker and thought it would be cool to take a classic wooden boat and restore it...

fisherpilot 02-01-2014 05:46 AM

BTW, has anyone heard from Alpharomeo? Hopefully he is doing ok. If you are reading this you are still in our thoughts and prayers


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