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forgot to bid 08-28-2013 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1472282)
Guys,

I just reviewed the distribution of flying and SCs in our category and once again it looks pretty good. Pilots in red are in RAW bucket 2.

Seniority RAW SCs
81XX 27 3
83XX 73 2
83XX 93 3
88XX 90 4
95XX 44 4
98XX 88 5
98XX 91 0
99XX 59 5
102XX 64 4
104XX 89 2
110XX 71 3
111XX 73 2

I have done this about 4 times in off months and in the summer. Every time it has shown a pretty good distribution of flying.

Like I said before - if the system is unduly burdensome on the junior Pilots - lets fix it. But with numbers like this, I think it will be hard to justify changing the system.

I am sure that guys out there are getting hosed on an individual basis - but I don't think its systematic. I would like to see some other guys post their categories if it shows the junior guys getting hosed - I have not seen it.

Scoop

holy cow that's all you guys are flying over there? its hard to do my category as we are always out of pilots. most seem to be well into bucket 3 going to 4... I think I'm 4.

anyways if you looked at tomorrow 6 guys are listed for say friday...

seniority / raw / hrs
116x 154r 59h
114x 151r 33h
115x 165r 76h
109x 112r 27h
115x 122r 58h
83x 84r 6h
116x 154r 36h
114x 158r 0h
112x 144r 70h
110x 160r 56h
110x 157r 75h
94x 142r 44h

obviously when you have 0 hrs and 158 raw you've been excused for whatever reason. or very sick.

Pineapple Guy 08-28-2013 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1472341)
holy cow that's all you guys are flying over there? its hard to do my category as we are always out of pilots. most seem to be well into bucket 3 going to 4... I think I'm 4.

anyways if you looked at tomorrow 6 guys are listed for say friday...

seniority / raw / hrs
116x 154r 59h
114x 151r 33h
115x 165r 76h
109x 112r 27h
115x 122r 58h
83x 84r 6h
116x 154r 36h
114x 158r 0h
112x 144r 70h
110x 160r 56h
110x 157r 75h
94x 142r 44h

obviously when you have 0 hrs and 158 raw you've been excused for whatever reason. or very sick.

But wait! I thought with the concessions in C2012 all the reserve guys were gonna fly 99 hours in the summer months! :confused:

Even throwing out the 0 hour guy, these 11 range from 6 to 76, with an average of 49. Another myth busted...:D

80ktsClamp 08-28-2013 03:35 PM

Not all is so even, scoop. My raw is 180 and had I not gotten a GS I would have been first up for SC in the morning.

forgot to bid 08-28-2013 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1472338)
All the 717 trips in September have swapped to the 319. I wonder what the holdup is...

given the propensity for pilots to not shave on their days off... I present to you the 717 pilots who had a summer off...

http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploa...ck-490x255.png

forgot to bid 08-28-2013 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1472348)
But wait! I thought with the concessions in C2012 all the reserve guys were gonna fly 99 hours in the summer months! :confused:

Even throwing out the 0 hour guy, these 11 range from 6 to 76, with an average of 49. Another myth busted...:D

typically we have 40 guys or so on res. that above is the guys who are available. The others are flying or may have already timed out and dont register on that list.

I guess the way to look at it is the availability list is awfully small considering the size of the catregory and typical res numbers.

Pineapple Guy 08-28-2013 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1472357)
typically we have 40 guys or so on res. that above is the guys who are available... the others are flying and dont register on that list.

btw in july I went through alv and did a trip that in previous times we wouldve needed another pilot to do. how is that something to celebrate?

and in aug I'm set to go through alv again depending on sc because I still owe one. although I got the memo summer is over so maybe ill escape.

No one is celebrating, and frankly, allowing reserves to fly to ALV+15 was perhaps, imo, the biggest concession we gave in C2012. Having said that, all the fear mongerers who said reserves are gonna fly 99 hours every month have been proven wrong..... again.

poostain 08-28-2013 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1472361)
No one is celebrating, and frankly, allowing reserves to fly to ALV+15 was perhaps, imo, the biggest concession we gave in C2012. Having said that, all the fear mongerers who said reserves are gonna fly 99 hours every month have been proven wrong..... again.


True, I only did 94 hours res in aug:(. I feel the concession.

Elvis90 08-28-2013 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1472361)
No one is celebrating, and frankly, allowing reserves to fly to ALV+15 was perhaps, imo, the biggest concession we gave in C2012. Having said that, all the fear mongerers who said reserves are gonna fly 99 hours every month have been proven wrong..... again.

It's been about 92 hours per month for me in a domestic category.

Purple Drank 08-28-2013 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1472338)
All the 717 trips in September have swapped to the 319. I wonder what the holdup is...

company keeping 50-seaters? :rolleyes:

80ktsClamp 08-28-2013 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1472378)
company keeping 50-seaters? :rolleyes:

Doubtful. Probably delays in the conversion process.


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