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I agree. Looks like we posted close together. They aren't even following their own memo anymore. I wouldn't say nobody is fighting it. People here are calling about things like 10am short calls.... hopefully others do as well.

EDIT: Also agree on the dalpa end of it. We need some strong leadership and positioning on this, with no ambiguity.

While I too would like to see 'strong leadership' from dalpa, they must tread very carefully through this issue or face a lawsuit over an illegal job action. That happens, we lose.

Dalpa has said only that we have a contract in force. Know that contract and abide by it, and dalpa will back you up.

There is nothing more anyone can do than that.

Check Essential

01-31-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1571468)

What sort of reaction are you looking for, that wouldn't look impatient or foolish?

For starters, I'd like to see them file a grievance.

Or at least communicate to us why they haven't.

TheManager

01-31-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1571471)

While I too would like to see 'strong leadership' from dalpa, they must tread very carefully through this issue or face a lawsuit over an illegal job action. That happens, we lose.

Dalpa has said only that we have a contract in force. Know that contract and abide by it, and dalpa will back you up.

There is nothing more anyone can do than that.

They should be reiterating it everyday like a mantra..

Also, assuring that reps will be with anyone whom is asked to see a CP after a PD.

Jack Bauer

01-31-2014 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1571470)

Some have said their little Garmin hand held GPS's have shown speeds as high as 20kts, but I have only seen 17.7 on mine. This video (and my boat) is on a 16' cat though, the 18's and 20's are a bit faster, as you would expect.

Now, if you really want to blow some dough, there are new full foiling, 100% carbon fiber 16' and 20' cats that claim 30 knots up on the foils, but the 16' costs over $30K and I think the 20' is about $45K! :eek:

Too rich for my blood!
Here's the 16' foiling cat: Flying Phantom V4 - YouTube

Here's a carbon 25' foiling cat, but it's also got a solid wing. These are called C cats, and they are well over $100K Groupama C V1 - YouTube

Very cool. Nice boat. I'm not in a position to do anything now (back issues) but would love to some day. That's gotta be a blast hanging over the water like that motating along. How often do you flip over? (I know that's not the technical term). Just saw the Nacra video. That looks like a ton of fun.

Dash8widget

01-31-2014 01:13 PM

Open ended reroute

Ok - so tomorrow is day four of my four day trip. With the exception of leg one, this whole thing has been one big reroute. Tomorrow they have me DH'ing to ATL and that's it - problem is, I'm MSP based. So the question is, can they build an open ended trip like this? My rotation makes no mention of actually getting me back to base and there is currently no scheduled release. BTW, I'm a regular line holder.

dalad

01-31-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1571468)

What sort of reaction are you looking for, that wouldn't look impatient or foolish? The union has already told us in writing that we should respect the terms of the PWA WRT conflicts with Part 117. Meanwhile, negotiators are sitting at the table (fine), but evidently not yielding (even better).

This is the part where we sit tight, like big boys and girls, and make sure that we respect our actual obligations, while negotiations take place. All we need to do is calmly defend our rights, and time is our leverage. Hystrionics demonstrate impatience, and impatience demonstrates a willingness to agree to weak terms.

Check your calendar: we're not even in our second month under Part 117.

Exactly, time to wind the clock. I'm sure a grievance will be filed if it is necessary. If you think the company is violating the contract make sure you document it. There are some very good people in contract admin and scheduling over at Dalpa.

Jack Bauer

01-31-2014 01:24 PM

I must say the letter just put out by the new MEC Chairman (Donatelli) is the best I have seen. Encouraging signs.

JungleBus

01-31-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1571308)

Wow that is an amazing picture. I had no idea they could go that fast. Impressive. Are they using a lot of carbon fiber?

Almost all carbon fiber, with a 130' tall rigid wing sail. It's controlled hydraulically, but the America's Cup rules this time around said no electrical power...so the hydraulic accumulators are actually charged by big dudes grinding away on manual pumps. At any given time, 5 or 6 of the 11 sailors on board are just there to power the hydraulics. If they have to tack suddenly and the accumulators aren't charged, this happens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoOjcDf_dJA

Larry Ellison isn't talking but all estimates are that he spent somewhere between $120m and $200m of his own money defending the Auld Cup this go around. The boats themselves "only" cost around $10m in materials apiece (the Oracle program had 2) but they required a small army to build, maintain, tweak, and sail them. Next time around I expect we'll see a smaller, somewhat cheaper version of the AC72 class...but they're absolutely amazing boats, & the America's Cup stirred up a lot of interest in smaller foiling cats like the ones Timbo is posting.

forgot to bid

01-31-2014 01:36 PM