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03-25-2014 | 04:55 PM
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Why not keep the GS -and- get 1.5 pay over the ALV?
In over 28 years I have never once flown a GS, and as a minimum 5hr. commuter, I doubt I ever will, but I do on occasion I do fly over the ALV. Why not have both? Why do we have to trade one for the other, isn't the $1Billion per year, in bankruptcy pay rates we are still giving to the company enough to satisfy them?
In over 28 years I have never once flown a GS, and as a minimum 5hr. commuter, I doubt I ever will, but I do on occasion I do fly over the ALV. Why not have both? Why do we have to trade one for the other, isn't the $1Billion per year, in bankruptcy pay rates we are still giving to the company enough to satisfy them?
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03-25-2014 | 04:57 PM
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All this talk of the HO's and min time fliers among us, how does one bid for a 74-78 hour line without asking for specific rotations? Is there a easy way? For BB, at NWA(since it bothers him) we had min sked, max sked, and if you didn't specify it was normal sked. I don't want to fly 84 hours each month, but 66 is a little short.
03-25-2014 | 05:14 PM
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Alaska Airlines to Offer Double Miles on British Airways Flights Between Seattle and London
By Karin Sun on 24 March 2014
Alaska Airlines announced that members of its Mileage Plan frequent flyer program can now earn double points on British Airways-operated flights between Seattle and London Heathrow through June 24 of this year. British Airways offers 10 flights a week between the two cities.
In order to qualify for the double points, passengers must be enrolled in Alaska’s Mileage Plan program, and must also register for the promotion through Alaska Airlines’ website prior to their first qualifying flight.
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Elite-level members of the carrier’s Mileage Plan are allowed certain benefits, including priority boarding, two free checked bags, and complimentary upgrades on Alaska Airlines flights.
Alaska Airlines to Offer Double Miles on British Airways Flights Between Seattle and London
By Karin Sun on 24 March 2014
Alaska Airlines announced that members of its Mileage Plan frequent flyer program can now earn double points on British Airways-operated flights between Seattle and London Heathrow through June 24 of this year. British Airways offers 10 flights a week between the two cities.
In order to qualify for the double points, passengers must be enrolled in Alaska’s Mileage Plan program, and must also register for the promotion through Alaska Airlines’ website prior to their first qualifying flight.
Alaska Airlines recently expanded its Mileage Plan program by offering mix-and-match one-way partner awards and allowing frequent flyers on international partner airlines to earn points towards MVP elite status.
Elite-level members of the carrier’s Mileage Plan are allowed certain benefits, including priority boarding, two free checked bags, and complimentary upgrades on Alaska Airlines flights.
03-25-2014 | 05:22 PM
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03-25-2014 | 05:25 PM
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Have had Malaria multiple times. It's Africa's version of the flu. Its not a big deal. Yes older people and young children die from Malaria if they do not seek immediate medical attention. Guess what happens to old people and young children in the USA if they don't seek medical attention for the flu?
I have done a couple DKR trips. The local F/A's are very nonchalant about malaria and couple in my crew had been infected numerous times over the years. They even have these shot things where they self medicate themselves if infected.
03-25-2014 | 05:26 PM
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Alaska Airlines to Offer Double Miles on British Airways Flights Between Seattle and London | Frequent Business Traveler
Alaska Airlines to Offer Double Miles on British Airways Flights Between Seattle and London
By Karin Sun on 24 March 2014
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Alaska Airlines to Offer Double Miles on British Airways Flights Between Seattle and London
By Karin Sun on 24 March 2014
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Alaska is putting a stick right in our eye.
The battle for Seattle is getting serious.
03-25-2014 | 05:38 PM
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03-25-2014 | 05:52 PM
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Have had Malaria multiple times. It's Africa's version of the flu. Its not a big deal. Yes older people and young children die from Malaria if they do not seek immediate medical attention. Guess what happens to old people and young children in the USA if they don't seek medical attention for the flu?
Delta has gone to great lengths to educate and provide meds to its employes. You might want to consider deleting such an irresponsible statement.
03-25-2014 | 06:26 PM
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Out of curiosity, is the ER doing most of the Africa stuff these days?
03-25-2014 | 06:36 PM
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Great idea!!! Let's get rid of the ALV+15 limit while we're at it and let everyone fly to the FAR's!
Except for those benefiting from it, most pilots did not like Trip Parking. What you're proposing would be far more detrimental than that, or any of the other work rules that have gone bye-bye over the years. I MIGHT be able to get behind 1.5 over 80 (I was fnwa btw, as I assume you are on the 744) but it would have to come with a cap - not limited solely by FAR's. 80 is just too high of a premium trigger, and would incentivize far too many of us to help Delta reduce our headcount.
The point is, there is a balance to be struck, and we will naturally all have our personal opinions on it. After the stagnation of the past decade+ I have little interest in anything that will further reduce Delta's staffing requirements.
The GS system definitely favors seniority in category, but as others have mentioned on here, it is more affected by your bidding strategy. The senior guys get more GS's because they are more likely to be OFF when GS's are flowing. All other things equal, the junior guy has to get his G#1 before the senior guy gets G#2.
If a pilot chooses not to chase the bigger payrate for better seniority in-category, he benefits by having better bidding options and the ability to set himself up for more GS's. He also has the option to bid up a category for the higher payrate, but probably fewer pay hours in a given year... If you say we shouldn't limit ourselves at all, then option #2 gets pushed back even further. IMO, after seeing both ways of doing things, I don't want to go back to 1.5 over 80. The current system seems to un-stovepipe things a little bit more, creating more options for guys vertically throughout the list.
Nobody is telling you how much you can make. I'd argue that if you live in base and know how to game the system you could make more as a senior NB FO rather than sitting wherever you do on the whale. We have 73NB's making more than the A's they fly with. There are plenty of ways to skin the cat...
Except for those benefiting from it, most pilots did not like Trip Parking. What you're proposing would be far more detrimental than that, or any of the other work rules that have gone bye-bye over the years. I MIGHT be able to get behind 1.5 over 80 (I was fnwa btw, as I assume you are on the 744) but it would have to come with a cap - not limited solely by FAR's. 80 is just too high of a premium trigger, and would incentivize far too many of us to help Delta reduce our headcount.
The point is, there is a balance to be struck, and we will naturally all have our personal opinions on it. After the stagnation of the past decade+ I have little interest in anything that will further reduce Delta's staffing requirements.
The GS system definitely favors seniority in category, but as others have mentioned on here, it is more affected by your bidding strategy. The senior guys get more GS's because they are more likely to be OFF when GS's are flowing. All other things equal, the junior guy has to get his G#1 before the senior guy gets G#2.
If a pilot chooses not to chase the bigger payrate for better seniority in-category, he benefits by having better bidding options and the ability to set himself up for more GS's. He also has the option to bid up a category for the higher payrate, but probably fewer pay hours in a given year... If you say we shouldn't limit ourselves at all, then option #2 gets pushed back even further. IMO, after seeing both ways of doing things, I don't want to go back to 1.5 over 80. The current system seems to un-stovepipe things a little bit more, creating more options for guys vertically throughout the list.
Nobody is telling you how much you can make. I'd argue that if you live in base and know how to game the system you could make more as a senior NB FO rather than sitting wherever you do on the whale. We have 73NB's making more than the A's they fly with. There are plenty of ways to skin the cat...
Post of the day! Unless you are a NB FO you have a lot of say in how "senior" you are. Some guys are 15-25 year FOs by choice because they want to be able to leverage the QOL and benefits of being senior. Other Pilots will bid up at first opportunity for higher pay, international flying etc.
The beauty of our system is that you can do what ever you want. What you can not do however is bid to higher paying equipment at the first opportunity and expect to have the same opportunities as those 5-10-15 years senior to you in the same seat. If you want to be senior - down-bid.
If you are a NB FO you do not have much of a choice, but if you stay a NB FO you will quickly accrue seniority - much, much quicker by the way, than most 2000-2010 hires.
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