Imapilot2

Are you sure? Then the displacement would never end. I'm preety sure that once you get displaced you bid what your seniority can hold but where the company has slots. Otherwise it would be never ending displacements or furloughs. Just a quess. Not sure myself.

acl65pilot

Quite true.

Imapilot2

whose is true?

Xray678

I think you are pretty much correct in your assesment, and it's exactly why I think even a relative seniority list favors the NWA pilots. A NWA pilot who stays at a former NW base really faces no worry on his ability to fly what he wants, no matter how the list comes together. Large numbers of Delta pilots are not going to bid MSP or DTW. However, a DL pilot who stays at a DL base faces the prospect of very little movement for the next 5-10 years as NW pilots bid into their base.

No matter how the list comes together, I hope there are a minimum of five year fences on the bases.

acl65pilot

Are you sure that you want it on bases or equipment?

Superpilot92

It could backfire in a big way and i dont think people are realizing that. Fences sound nice but when they move an aircraft out of that base it could force people into commuting or bidding out of that aircraft. Also a fence on a base isnt going to be possible since NWA planes will be shifted to DAL bases and DAL planes shifted to NWA bases. There are a lot of variables that could backfire in this merger senario if a fence was put up IMHO.

Bucking Bar

Movement? I'm very concerned about even being able to hold ATL period once the DC9 refugees begin displacement bids. It all depends on the slots they decide to "take." The numbers are easily there and that flying is for the most part, being outsourced. Concerned enough to have sent out resumes and stopped by my former employer's flight department to express interest in Falcon 2000 CA slot that is going to open up at a convenient time.

I'm getting prepared, just in case this merger results in having to execute a difficult decision. Hopefully they would offer long term leave as an alternative to a short term displacement. Making guesses on the numbers, in five years, this will not be a problem, but it could get pretty rough for the next three.

Or it could be great. There just isn't much information to go on and big questions, like the fate of the 787, aren't known yet.

KC10 FATboy

I thought we were going to have NO fences?

-Fatty

sailingfun

The Delta contract allows a pilot who is displaced to go anywhere in the system where there is a pilot junior to him in that category. There is no requirement for there to be a opening. If they had that rule what would happen when a airline was shrinking and a senior captain got displaced. He would have no position to go to. Displacements occur most often when a airline is shrinking and the nature of that is that there are no openings. Here is the exact wording from the contract.

13. A pilot who holds an MD may displace a pilot in any category who is junior to him and
who was in such category on the award date of his MD.

MD=mandatory displacement

iaflyer

Yeah, but I thought there was something in LOA19 or the JCBA that talked about "No bump, no flush" which would negate that section. I don't have my LOA19 here to look it up.