Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-17-2014, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
Unfortunately the horse trading taking place now is cutting into the last remaining nuggets in our work rules of any worth. Compare the contract of a couple decades ago against what we are left with now....there is no comparison.
If there is going to be horse trading let's not trade a few dollars for something that ultimately reduces safety. Can we agree on that? Also, these work rule changes that get sold as huge wins with erroneous information (ie we just need the up to 99 hours for reserves to cover a specific situation for international reserve) causes further erosion of credibility of the union and later, reduced QOL of the line pilot.
If there is going to be horse trading let's not trade a few dollars for something that ultimately reduces safety. Can we agree on that? Also, these work rule changes that get sold as huge wins with erroneous information (ie we just need the up to 99 hours for reserves to cover a specific situation for international reserve) causes further erosion of credibility of the union and later, reduced QOL of the line pilot.
05-17-2014, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Just because we have something that is bad "Lima" doesn't mean we it is OK or good to Add something else that is bad.
05-17-2014, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Reserve when I was hired was 19 days in call. 24 hours a day with 2 hours to report. You're right there is no comparison.
05-17-2014, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
And that somehow dampens the safety concern? This is really the crux of all the angst here, and I think it massively hypocritical of us to even discuss money trumping safety. But here we are.
I asked about it and it looks like LC changes with the LOA to no acknowledgement required (with some nuances of course). That is way better!
05-17-2014, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
This right here^^^ What we SHOULD be doing is eliminating the 2 man availability of the company to schedule trips like LIM and DUB...
05-17-2014, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I asked about it and it looks like LC changes with the LOA to no acknowledgement required. That is way better!
Studying the 117 language and comments now to see if that would be legal.
My first inclination was "that can't be", but so far I don't see why not.
05-17-2014, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
I heard the same rumor. No more trip acknowledgement at all.
Studying the 117 language and comments now to see if that would be legal.
My first inclination was "that can't be", but so far I don't see why not.
Studying the 117 language and comments now to see if that would be legal.
My first inclination was "that can't be", but so far I don't see why not.
05-17-2014, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cards5
Why is this better?
I'm still piecing together how it might work.
The FAA "interpretations" I've looked at so far don't seem to require any acknowledgement of flight duty assignments in the long call reserve scenario. You just have to have the prospective rest opportunity.
05-17-2014, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
I heard the same rumor. No more trip acknowledgement at all.
Studying the 117 language and comments now to see if that would be legal.
My first inclination was "that can't be", but so far I don't see why not.
Studying the 117 language and comments now to see if that would be legal.
My first inclination was "that can't be", but so far I don't see why not.
Denny
05-17-2014, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cards5
Why is this better?
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