Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-22-2014 | 08:55 PM
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Ftb,
I think they are saying you turned your phone off at 1900 and then went to bed at 2200.
Denny
I think they are saying you turned your phone off at 1900 and then went to bed at 2200.
Denny
05-22-2014 | 08:56 PM
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OK, somebody catch me up. I have been bouncing all the way spilling coffee all over the airplane for the last 6 hours from JFK to SFO. CDOs are dead. got it. Great great news. But don't the negotiators have to go back to the company to discuss that? We had an agreement in principle did we not? How is it that we can unilaterally cut out the CDO portion and still have an agreement. Must have been a contingency??? However it happened, I like it.
I'm just curious too.
05-22-2014 | 08:56 PM
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So you technically can now be given a 1000 SC on day 1 of reserve but you're not required to acknowledge anything or look at anything on your day off per FAR 117. So at 0000 they call for 1000sc, you're on the hook for the 1000sc but of course you can exercise the 2 hour option so really you're arriving at 1200 which would've been the same as getting a trip at 1200.
Edit: just realized what you're saying. If it was on there at 1500 but you never looked at it, they could call at 0000 for the 1000 SC. My bad.
05-22-2014 | 09:00 PM
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Sorry, in the edited post I was axing where the LOA is published. I am still curious as to how this could be agreed to by the company so fast...
05-22-2014 | 09:06 PM
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That's the pretty amazing part in all this. Per the MEC blastmail sent out at 2230, the MEC recessed between noon and 1500 so the NC could go back to the company. Only took 3 hours to bang out a revised LOA. Cost the company 30 more pilots, cost us an estimated $2 mil, I say we both benefited from increased safety. It seems the company really wasn't pressing for CDOs, as sailingfun posted yesterday. I think the MEC really thought the pilots wanted them & was caught a bit unawares by the uproar when the LOA was unveiled.
05-22-2014 | 09:07 PM
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Quickie: So if I put in an APD for one day of a four day, ADP will appear on the entire rotation -- (no ability to GS/WS on the other 3 days?)
05-22-2014 | 09:13 PM
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Also-
I am loathe to admit this, but I must.
Its pretty obvious that somebody in UPPER management at Delta Air Lines did us a "solid" today. They recognized the revolt that the MEC had on its hands and I think they had to acknowledge and respond to the will of the pilot group. They had no choice if they wanted any agreement at all. That is a demonstration of the strength of our unity.
But -- management easily could have made this whole episode a lot more painful and in fact downright ugly for our Association and all of us. At another airline that is probably exactly what would have happened. Not at Delta.
Credit where credit is due.
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OK - Having said that.
Dear management-
SHOW ME THE MONEY in 2015 !
I agree with you that management could have made this pretty ugly for DALPA. But, I think it's also likely that they acted in their own self interest.
We had a forum full of pilots who almost to a man characterized an upcoming policy to be unsafe -- or, at least less safe than what they had before. Delta watches this forum. Delta knows the increased liability something like that would create if something ever did go wrong. Delta did not want that.
IMO ( <=== Hows that, index?
), if that's what happened, Delta made a smart, legal, business decision today. Good for them and good for us for expressing ourselves.
05-22-2014 | 09:25 PM
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Incorrect. You can not do anything on the one day that you place your APD on. The whole four day trip drops. Free to GS WS etc on the remaining three days.
Scoop
05-22-2014 | 09:28 PM
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Check,
I agree with you that management could have made this pretty ugly for DALPA. But, I think it's also likely that they acted in their own self interest.
We had a forum full of pilots who almost to a man characterized an upcoming policy to be unsafe -- or, at least less safe than what they had before. Delta watches this forum. Delta knows the increased liability something like that would create if something ever did go wrong. Delta did not want that.
IMO ( <=== Hows that, index? ), if that's what happened, Delta made a smart, legal, business decision today.
Good for them and good for us for expressing ourselves.
I agree with you that management could have made this pretty ugly for DALPA. But, I think it's also likely that they acted in their own self interest.
We had a forum full of pilots who almost to a man characterized an upcoming policy to be unsafe -- or, at least less safe than what they had before. Delta watches this forum. Delta knows the increased liability something like that would create if something ever did go wrong. Delta did not want that.
IMO ( <=== Hows that, index?
), if that's what happened, Delta made a smart, legal, business decision today. Good for them and good for us for expressing ourselves.
The writing was on the wall when Carl and Tsquare were on the same page. To make a run on Cemetery Hill was not worth it.
05-22-2014 | 09:34 PM
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