Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-22-2014 | 07:54 AM
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What was interesting to me, is how little discussion there was at the time, about what this meant for the aircraft's certification. It seems to have failed a legitimate test. Did they simply change the allowable CG range?
What was interesting to me, is how little discussion there was at the time, about what this meant for the aircraft's certification. It seems to have failed a legitimate test. Did they simply change the allowable CG range?
06-22-2014 | 08:10 AM
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Airbus Industrie Flight 129 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What was interesting to me, is how little discussion there was at the time, about what this meant for the aircraft's certification. It seems to have failed a legitimate test. Did they simply change the allowable CG range?
What was interesting to me, is how little discussion there was at the time, about what this meant for the aircraft's certification. It seems to have failed a legitimate test. Did they simply change the allowable CG range?
06-22-2014 | 08:14 AM
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Not trying to mislead. I'm trying to prove that pay rates that aren't well above the rest - regardless of how they got there - are not vulnerable. American didn't take cuts to their pay rates in bankruptcy because their rates weren't vulnerable.
So a discussion of "buying power" and inflation referencing 1986 earnings is meaningless in this context. We work in a very competitive segment of the private sector. If this was a discussion of how much government workers (like the military) should receive in pay increases, it might matter. We negotiate your pay and benefits based in large part upon how profitable our enterprise is. We don't have to like it, but we should understand it.
Our enterprise is very successful right now. I expect to see significant improvements to our earnings negotiated in the next contract because of that.
I am not attacking you. Can you respond without attacking me?
So a discussion of "buying power" and inflation referencing 1986 earnings is meaningless in this context. We work in a very competitive segment of the private sector. If this was a discussion of how much government workers (like the military) should receive in pay increases, it might matter. We negotiate your pay and benefits based in large part upon how profitable our enterprise is. We don't have to like it, but we should understand it.
Our enterprise is very successful right now. I expect to see significant improvements to our earnings negotiated in the next contract because of that.
I am not attacking you. Can you respond without attacking me?
06-22-2014 | 08:22 AM
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If I remember, this flight was testing the ability of the autopilot to handle an engine out shortly after takeoff. During the previous tests the fcu altitude was set at a much higher alt above the grnd, on the last test the fcu altitude was set much lower to the ground. When alt * came on it was doing the computation as to how long it took to get to the fcu alt, since it was much lower than the previous demos the autopilot caused the aircraft to pitch up to meet the calculations. The aircraft was rolling off on one side and the pilots pulled the other engine to idle to straighten out the aircraft. Initially it was thought that it was only a 330/340 problem, but via the sim we found out the 320 had the same issue, I think there was a software change....its been a long time. One of NWA execs was supposed to be on board and bowed out at the last moment, I think there were a lots of execs from Allitalia on board.
06-22-2014 | 09:25 AM
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06-22-2014 | 09:28 AM
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Your post is very emotional as evidenced by the... shall I use the word "critique"? of those that believe Mr Anderson is doing a fine job... the best job this industry has seen in a long time, if not forever. So you accuse him of being totally motivated by self interest and greed. OK... if that were the case, why would he hang around this industry? After the turnaround he has done at DAL, I am quite certain that he could go many other places and make a ton more coin. In your post, you seem quite class envious of his position. You make a judgement about what he "deserves". That is dangerous ground my friend. Maybe we should write our congressmen to pass the "Anti - dog eat dog rule"... Getting DAL relisted on the S&P is a great thing for DAL. It means that many more investors MUST buy the stock. The buyback value is a bit more tricky. In terms of ROI, it really doesn't make that much money for any shareholder... paying down debt would garner a far better ROI, but I understand the psychology. What it does do is to instill a sense of confidence in management for those shareholders. That is good for us as pilots, because it means more money and more value for the enterprise. Do the execs get rich? You betcha. Do I personally care? Nope, not really. I'm not an executive. I'm not an NBA power forward either getting paid way too much money to play a game. I play the cards I am dealt. And I am not necessarily as cynical as sailingfun about the timing of the next contract. The company might want to lock us in before we hit the $5B debt in 2016. Because after that, it will be really really hard to justify not paying us a lot more. Food for thought.
C2015 better be good for us though. Without the givebacks the pilot group gave RA wouldn't have had a company to come and run. Are we really now the only employee group not back to pre bankruptcy pay levels??
06-22-2014 | 09:54 AM
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06-22-2014 | 10:00 AM
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That memo from management has to be pretty embarrassing for DALPA.
I'm somewhat surprised that management rubbed DALPA's nose in it so blatantly.
There's the pay thing and then there's also the part about our new ADG being no big deal because it's offset by other productivity concessions we've made.
Makes DALPA look awfully ineffective. But I guess that was the intent.
Hence my comment. At DAL, it pays better to threaten to join a union than to actually have one.
06-22-2014 | 10:17 AM
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06-22-2014 | 10:58 AM
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Whoopsadaisy. I hope the agent and FA weren't hurt...
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