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Elliot 07-13-2014 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1683099)
So jerk, in your "professional opinion," you believe that pilots owe DAL "fiduciary duties" under the PWA???? And you believe that based on what???

Index,

You are correct. I used the term "fiduciary duty" in the wrong context. I made a mistake while posting "fiduciary duty", when I should've used "contractual duty" instead.

Good job going directly to a personal insult though, you by far are the better person. :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by index (Post 1683099)
Can you provide some case law that supports your premise that airline pilots owe fiduciary duties to their employer under their contract? Hint: it doesn't exist.

Nope. See above comment.


Originally Posted by index (Post 1683099)
I think you and your sidekick, square, need to do some more research on what type of relationships dictate fiduciary duties (see doctor-patient, attorney-client, trustee-beneficiary, etc...) before you two start using terms that you don't understand.

I'll pass, thank you. Don't hold your breath hoping I'll consult you prior to posting any other personal opinion. On second thought, why don't you start holding your breath. :D



Originally Posted by index (Post 1683099)
Standing by for the back pedaling. Actually, neither of you ever admit you're mistaken. More accurately, standing by for the spin on why your post was actually correct.

You are wrong on so many levels, I'm not sure which to address first? One, there's no "back pedaling" required. I fully admit that I used the term incorrectly. If your reading comprehension is lacking, I used the term "fiduciary duty" when I should've used the term "contractual duty."

"Neither of you ever admit you're mistaken." Really? That's a false statement. Just as false as your FAKE INDEPENDENT UNION you support. :eek:

Lastly, no spin required. I made a mistake, admitted to it, and have nothing to hide. I've even posted my real name on this board MULTIPLE times, unlike you "oh cowardly one."

Quit being a keyboard cowardly warrior. Will start calling you "LION" from now on.

Good day,
Kyle

Elliot 07-13-2014 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1683214)
Welcome to the debate, shiz. Apparently you too believe that us (WE) pilots owe a legal duty to Delta to act solely in Delta's interest???? I can reach no other conclusion since your only "rebuttal" to the info I provided was that I needed to "lighten up."

You need to wake up. And that's a fact Jack.

How about a little grammar check, LION? :roll eyes:

index 07-13-2014 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1683366)
Index,

You are correct. I used the term "fiduciary duty" in the wrong context. I made a mistake while posting "fiduciary duty", when I should've used "contractual duty" instead.

Good job going directly to a personal insult though, you by far are the better person. :rolleyes:



Nope. See above comment.



I'll pass, thank you. Don't hold your breath hoping I'll consult you prior to posting any other personal opinion. On second thought, why don't you start holding your breath. :D




You are wrong on so many levels, I'm not sure which to address first? One, there's no "back pedaling" required. I fully admit that I used the term incorrectly. If your reading comprehension is lacking, I used the term "fiduciary duty" when I should've used the term "contractual duty."

"Neither of you ever admit you're mistaken." Really? That's a false statement. Just as false as your FAKE INDEPENDENT UNION you support. :eek:

Lastly, no spin required. I made a mistake, admitted to it, and have nothing to hide. I've even posted my real name on this board MULTIPLE times, unlike you "oh cowardly one."

Quit being a keyboard cowardly warrior. Will start calling you "LION" from now on.

Good day,
Kyle

Index, the Lion...I like it!

Doesn't quite have the ring of Kyle the Jerk, but oh well.

Elliot 07-13-2014 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1683385)
Index, the Lion...I like it!

Doesn't quite have the ring of Kyle the Jerk, but oh well.

"the Jerk" is better than "Pee Drank." :roll eyes:

Didn't expect you, PD, to call Index out on any of his false accusations.

Mesabah 07-13-2014 02:08 PM

The World Cup trophies are presented by Emirates flight attendants.....weird.

NuGuy 07-13-2014 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1683296)
To understand, you have to grasp that management doesn't really understand the cost side of the business. What does it cost to deadhead pilots through the system, displacing revenue? Delta knows the cost of a Delta pilot, it is "credit" on a pay sheet. The same metrics simply do not exist for DCI.*

Heyas Bar,

This is real insight, BTW, but it goes far beyond the airline industry.

There are entire swaths of corporate America that fail to understand TRUE cost and asset accounting.

It comes from B-School. They've been taught from the get go that their skills are completely interchangeable with any business on the planet.
That's simply not true once you get beyond the basic accounting "debits on the left, credits on the right" mantra.

I've seen "consultants" come into a business and tell ownership they're all screwed up and can't understand how they've survived this long (a business which had been making steady profits for 40 years).

OTOH, one of the best people I've ever seen at this was NOT a b-school grad, but an engineer. In typical engineer fashion, she had to understand how everything went together, the tolerance, possible hysteresis in the measuring process, and the "body English" that went into the entire system.

You could make book on her results.

Nu

Scoop 07-13-2014 02:22 PM

How about we all stick to posting facts, asking questions, throw in some speculation, a little underboob/butt etc and keep the insults to a minimum?

Scoop

shiznit 07-13-2014 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1683214)
Welcome to the debate, shiz. Apparently you too believe that us pilots owe a legal duty to Delta to act solely in Delta's interest???? I can reach no other conclusion since your only "rebuttal" to the info I provided was that I needed to "lighten up."

You need to wake up. And that's a fact Jack.

I'm plenty awake, thanks... Apparently you like to assume things, and I did not write nor believe as you aver. Lighten up Francis.

(I do concur with Carl though, points for another Stripes reference.)

georgetg 07-13-2014 02:33 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsdGtfBCQAAGjWf.jpg

Cheers
George

Alan Shore 07-13-2014 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1683457)
One of the great advantages of a 3 man cockpit, you most always have a referee.

Only for taxi, takeoff, and landing. The rest of the time, the poor schmuck has to sit and listen to one guy gripe about the other all night. :p


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