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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 697475)
So at this point, is it best for DAL to let AMR have JAL? I mean its great to run up the price on them but what if we get stuck with it? Is this a game of chicken to see who'll jump out of the JAL bid before the car goes off the cliff?
I've asked myself the same: is this a case of "winners lose"? I mean, from a pilot perspective, do we want to have the company defend the Narita operation (i.e. with flights), or do we want a lucrative arrangement that favors JAL pilots and the stockholder at our expense? I think the answer is that we need a satisfactory arrangement that includes Haneda access, either with or without JAL. If it's with JAL, we need specific agreements on how the flying is split up. I would say something like the JV with AF/KLM, except more transparent, and more favorable, if we end up as part of the team that bails them out. I don't see much downside in causing AMR to bid up JAL, in the meantime. I also don't see a problem being on the money side of an airline bankruptcy. Maybe it turns out to be a good investment? And it seems that the die were cast when we started to speak with JAL. Whether or not AMR tries something with ALK is out of our hands; we're stuck with a more competitive stance from AMR no matter what we do now. I'm OK with it: I'm tired of working for the airline that runs away. |
Anyone know how this new LGA "hub" is going to affect staffing on the 88 in NYC? Are they looking to put more bodies up there or are they going to fly it out of all the bases?
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
(Post 697652)
Anyone know how this new LGA "hub" is going to affect staffing on the 88 in NYC? Are they looking to put more bodies up there or are they going to fly it out of all the bases?
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The LCA's meeting, if the LCA I was flying heard it right, was that the 88 NYC would not increase initially (say until Fall 2010) despite the expanded flying. After that he didn't know.
ACL, is April the move in date to the near terminal in LGA? Thats what I heard along with its all mainline flying and we'd start seeing stuff like LGA-BUF 6 x a day. Not sure if that was all correct or not because he mentioned 3-5% growth per month and thats obviously not the case. But I hope ATL gets a lot of this flying because for one, I want to stay here and two, I want Roosevelt overnights, I love that place. |
3-5% per year.
We will move in LGA when it gets approved. |
BTW I love you new Pic Forgot to Bid!
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Originally Posted by freightguy
(Post 697424)
SEA-PEK: B767 (5/week)
SEA-KIX: B767 (Daily) SEA-AMS: A330/B-767 (10/week) DTW-HKG: B777 (5/week) DTW-ICN: B777 (5/week) DTW-PVG: B777 (Daily) JFK-TLV: B747 (Daily) JFK-ABV: B767 (3/week) JFK-ACC: B767 (3/week) JFK-CPH: B757 (Daily) JFK-ARN: B757 (Daily) LAX-NRT: A330/B-777 (11/week) SEA-KIX the hotel is a 55 minute bus ride from KIX, Its a nice hotel, but you are actually closer to downtown Kobe and New Kobe airport than you are to KIX. Before you start complaining, the old hotels in downtown KIX (all 4 of them over the last 18 years) were also a 55 minute bus ride due to heavy traffic. DTW-HKG I talked to the HKG station manager a few days ago. He said they can usually fill Biz class with revenue passengers. I think this will be a good route for us, I just wish it was a daily. Question: DTW-PVG, DTW-HKG and DTW-ICN will likely require 2 airplanes per route due to flight time. Where did we get the 6 extra 777s from? I know we pulled them off ATL-NRT and ATL-HNL... |
Originally Posted by Nosmo King
(Post 697714)
The restart of SLC-NRT is conspicuously absent. Sounds like 2 day layovers in LAX for A330 crews (or lots of deadhead to/from LAX).
SEA-KIX the hotel is a 55 minute bus ride from KIX, Its a nice hotel, but you are actually closer to downtown Kobe and New Kobe airport than you are to KIX. Before you start complaining, the old hotels in downtown KIX (all 4 of them over the last 18 years) were also a 55 minute bus ride due to heavy traffic. DTW-HKG I talked to the HKG station manager a few days ago. He said they can usually fill Biz class with revenue passengers. I think this will be a good route for us, I just wish it was a daily. Question: DTW-PVG, DTW-HKG and DTW-ICN will likely require 2 airplanes per route due to flight time. Where did we get the 6 extra 777s from? I know we pulled them off ATL-NRT and ATL-HNL... |
I believe we're taking 2 more 777s shortly.
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Originally Posted by dragon
(Post 697735)
They pulled JFK-NRT as well. Those guys only had that route, does this mean we'll see a DTW 777 base?
I doubt there will be a new base until later next year. |
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