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RatherBGolfin 08-26-2008 02:16 PM

How many people are in the pool?

RBG

acl65pilot 08-26-2008 06:09 PM

I did not think that there were 50. I know that there are over 50 people if you include all of the ones that had interview scheduled.
I will have to check.
Either way, bringing anyone on to any property in this economic climate is nothing short of a miracle. I am glad to see that all of the conjure over the last few months in panning out. Maybe NWA will bring a few more on also!

viper548 08-26-2008 06:40 PM

There were over 100 in the NWA pool. Hopefully Delta will honor it and bring those people on.

acl65pilot 08-26-2008 07:01 PM

I do not know if they are going to do that before DCC. If they would it would probably be after that. Also of note there are some in the pool that DAL turned down.

maddogmax 08-27-2008 03:52 AM

Just curious! How would you know that there are "some in the pool that DAL turned down"

acl65pilot 08-27-2008 04:23 AM

I know them personally.

sailingfun 08-27-2008 05:48 AM

There would not be a mixing of pilots until a SOC is achieved. That will not occur at the very earliest until late fall 09 and is more likely in 10. There has been discussion about what to do if furloughs are neccessary at NWA during that transition period. No idea at this point if they have made any choices. Pilots could be brought over to the Delta side but would have to go through the Delta new hire program if a SOC had not been obtained. You also have the issue of what seniority they would come over under since any negotiated list would normally not be effective until the SOC. It can get complex.

Superpilot92 08-27-2008 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 450909)
There would not be a mixing of pilots until a SOC is achieved. That will not occur at the very earliest until late fall 09 and is more likely in 10. There has been discussion about what to do if furloughs are neccessary at NWA during that transition period. No idea at this point if they have made any choices. Pilots could be brought over to the Delta side but would have to go through the Delta new hire program if a SOC had not been obtained. You also have the issue of what seniority they would come over under since any negotiated list would normally not be effective until the SOC. It can get complex.

At this point Furloughs at NWA are no more likely than they are at DAL so i have no idea why you assume they "could" be necessary.

caddis 08-27-2008 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 450909)
There would not be a mixing of pilots until a SOC is achieved. That will not occur at the very earliest until late fall 09 and is more likely in 10. There has been discussion about what to do if furloughs are neccessary at NWA during that transition period. No idea at this point if they have made any choices. Pilots could be brought over to the Delta side but would have to go through the Delta new hire program if a SOC had not been obtained. You also have the issue of what seniority they would come over under since any negotiated list would normally not be effective until the SOC. It can get complex.


As Super92 said that NWA is no more likely to furlough than DAL at this point. In in August we had over 50 early retirements as well as 12 or so normal ones. One of our guys has a web site were you can track retirements and other departures. We have been averaging about 10 per month. We do monthly position awards and the latest one that came out was for December. That means that unless something catastrophic happens the earliest you would see a furlough is Jan 1. That date is after the new SLI will be released.

Now back to what happens if there are furloughs. Let's say that DAL is 100 understaffed and we are 100 overstaffed. The 2, soon to be 1 MEC, could work with Delta to forge a bridge agreement to allow those pilots to fly on DAL list. It is possible they would be placed on the bottom of the list but still paid for their years of service until SOC. Then at time of SOC they would go were they were on the SLI.

Confusing yes, but it has happened to some degree in the past here at NWA.

sailingfun 08-27-2008 06:23 AM

The current fleet plans have the Delta fleet remaining basically static in size and they plan to hire because narrow bodies are being parked but 777's are coming onboard. The NWA fleet is shrinking every week. I am told that looking at the numbers NWA will have a pilot surplus for a period of time next year. If they will furlough, carry the excess or move pilots to the Delta side is a unknown and being looked at as we speak. There are still varibles such as how many NWA pilots take the early outs. At the moment however on paper there will be a surplus at NWA. I doubt you will see any furloughs but you may see some pilots flying on the Delta side before SOC.


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