Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-26-2014, 12:49 PM
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08-26-2014, 12:50 PM
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How many in a category on call / how far from away from the bottom do you need to be to be a line-holder?
I'm sure it depends on staffing in your category, but is there a rough WAG? 20%
I'm sure it depends on staffing in your category, but is there a rough WAG? 20%
08-26-2014, 12:51 PM
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What you state is absolutely correct....of course what you fail to mention is that in C2012 the reserve guarantee was permanently raised for all reserves, forever. Further, you did not mention that with the old system, if you had vacation, mil leave, etc., that NONE of it applied to how much the company could fly you. So if you had 7 days of vacation in a month, guess what? The company could fly you to the ALV outside of those days. If you had even more days it was even worse. Now those days count against your "personal" reserve guarantee.
The ability to fly to ALV+15 was a concession, no doubt. However there were some positives as well. And let's not even talk about how reserve was "way back when." As it is it is a fairly good system we have. That of course is category and time-of-year dependent.
The ability to fly to ALV+15 was a concession, no doubt. However there were some positives as well. And let's not even talk about how reserve was "way back when." As it is it is a fairly good system we have. That of course is category and time-of-year dependent.
I agree it was a concession but it was a fairly small one. I have never been flown to the reserve guarantee even once in 15 years (about 40% reserve).
I am sure others have been flown to the absolute limits - but probably pretty rarely.
You want to talk about concessions lets talk about 30 day summer months.
Instant 3.3% productivity gain for the company over all 12,000 + DAL Pilots, not just a "potential gain" from some of the few thousand Reserve Pilots, that was partially offset by other contractual changes.
Finally, as much as guys complain about reserve, in my opinion it is probably the only thing in our contract that has consistently gotten better since Contract 1996. Back then, besides a few outliers, reserve was pretty much flown by the junior 20% of guys in every category - now reserve is spread throughout most categories - ask yourself why?
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08-26-2014, 01:03 PM
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08-26-2014, 01:11 PM
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I don't like ALV+15.
I think the limit should be mirrored to the LCW, not what is essentially a mirror of the WS pickup limit. If what the company can legally "build" for a lineholder is ALV+7.5, that should also be the max that a reserve pilot should be "built" to unless they WS/YS, respectively.
The 5:15 ADG will mean less work for the same amount of pay for reserve pilots.
I'd like to see a 5:15 credit, not just RAW for short call assignments.
I think the limit should be mirrored to the LCW, not what is essentially a mirror of the WS pickup limit. If what the company can legally "build" for a lineholder is ALV+7.5, that should also be the max that a reserve pilot should be "built" to unless they WS/YS, respectively.
The 5:15 ADG will mean less work for the same amount of pay for reserve pilots.
I'd like to see a 5:15 credit, not just RAW for short call assignments.
Take it one step further:
Training, vacation, short-call, flying, sitting in the hotel, deadheading,
basically any company assigned activity or vacation should pay/credit 5:15 regardless of status.
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08-26-2014, 01:14 PM
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08-26-2014, 01:15 PM
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I think the WAG is 15-20% depending on cat. The international cats vary more throughout the year than the dom. narrowbodies. Be careful, that number can move drastically. When the 777 was in NYC I think the no. was 50% to hold a line right before they closed the base.
08-26-2014, 01:22 PM
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disposted............
08-26-2014, 01:22 PM
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I think the WAG is 15-20% depending on cat. The international cats vary more throughout the year than the dom. narrowbodies. Be careful, that number can move drastically. When the 777 was in NYC I think the no. was 50% to hold a line right before they closed the base.
08-26-2014, 01:28 PM
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Insult to injury was the realization I look a hundred years old.
Thanks a lot Walgreens...
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