Maybe nothing... this guy was just trying to learn info on how to maximize his hours and how limits interacted with WS etc. He wants HOURS so that he can get off probation. I don't recall him ever mentioning PAY... and as a guy making first year pay, he probably needs more of that too!

I can empathize... I usually fly 50 hrs a month, that's where the time-away-from-home line crosses the money-received line for me in the "Play vs Work Utility Chart". However, when I was on probation, I tried to fly to the max I could, for exactly what MikeFromMt is inferring--to get off probation! Not being "at risk" for everything and any small mistake was vastly more important to me than pay.

 

You can have an "amen."

 

I don't like ALV+15.
I think the limit should be mirrored to the LCW, not what is essentially a mirror of the WS pickup limit. If what the company can legally "build" for a lineholder is ALV+7.5, that should also be the max that a reserve pilot should be "built" to unless they WS/YS, respectively.

The 5:15 ADG will mean less work for the same amount of pay for reserve pilots.

I'd like to see a 5:15 credit, not just RAW for short call assignments.

 

What you state is absolutely correct....of course what you fail to mention is that in C2012 the reserve guarantee was permanently raised for all reserves, forever. Further, you did not mention that with the old system, if you had vacation, mil leave, etc., that NONE of it applied to how much the company could fly you. So if you had 7 days of vacation in a month, guess what? The company could fly you to the ALV outside of those days. If you had even more days it was even worse. Now those days count against your "personal" reserve guarantee.

The ability to fly to ALV+15 was a concession, no doubt. However there were some positives as well. And let's not even talk about how reserve was "way back when." As it is it is a fairly good system we have. That of course is category and time-of-year dependent.

 

Well, there certainly would be a "doubt" if you took DALPA's C12 road show and slick marketing materials at face value.

Wouldn't it be nice to get an objective explanation from "our" "union" instead of the utterly one-sided propaganda we saw on C12?

 

Fixed your post.... I knew you'd appreciate it.

By the way... you in on the wager of a case of beer if Heidi gets elected? Nothing fancy, I'll stoop to beer, and nothing exotic. 1 year after the election, if head count doesn't decrease by 10% you buy me a case of Yeungleung.

 

I guess you would be against reading the "con" papers back when we had them.

 

How many in a category on call / how far from away from the bottom do you need to be to be a line-holder?

I'm sure it depends on staffing in your category, but is there a rough WAG? 20%

 

I agree it was a concession but it was a fairly small one. I have never been flown to the reserve guarantee even once in 15 years (about 40% reserve).

I am sure others have been flown to the absolute limits - but probably pretty rarely.

You want to talk about concessions lets talk about 30 day summer months.

Instant 3.3% productivity gain for the company over all 12,000 + DAL Pilots, not just a "potential gain" from some of the few thousand Reserve Pilots, that was partially offset by other contractual changes.

Finally, as much as guys complain about reserve, in my opinion it is probably the only thing in our contract that has consistently gotten better since Contract 1996. Back then, besides a few outliers, reserve was pretty much flown by the junior 20% of guys in every category - now reserve is spread throughout most categories - ask yourself why?

Scoop

 

ALPA dues - 2% raise while on probation