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Old 09-05-2014 | 02:18 PM
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Old 09-05-2014 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I would ask you to reconsider. First, its a different MEC, two, more participation equates to more leverage. 100% participation is key. Don't let others opinions and input mean more because you refuse to participate.
Please explain why we are being asked to consider CDOs AGAIN!

Never mind, we weren't asked about it the last time.
Old 09-05-2014 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
You might, depending upon the settings that the Company chooses to use. Typically, I've seen lots of open time left over, which means that they have not chosen to do so.
If you only have 3 reserves plan on flying a lot. Rolling thunder might be a great plan!
Old 09-05-2014 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by index
Please explain why we are being asked to consider CDOs AGAIN!

Never mind, we weren't asked about it the last time.
Because some pilots have expressed a interest in flying them and their reps have asked. Should they be ignored? That is why you have a survey! If a majority of the pilots don't want them you move on and have it documented.
Old 09-05-2014 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
How does the percentage of survey completions create or diminish "leverage" to the NC?

Does DALPA tell the company how many surveys were done prior to negotiating?
It's all about unity and how the company views pilot sympathies. If only 30% of the pilots bother to fill out the survey the company is going to assume the pilots are satisfied with the status quo. Just as we have to put together a negotiating position management also must go through the same exercise. The degree of pilot unification and activity in the union they see will influence their budget for a new contract.
Old 09-05-2014 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bohicagain
PBS Bid question.

If my category has projected 33 lines and 36 total pilots bidding will the system force flying on Junior people.

Example if in the top 15 more than 3 people want reserve will PBS build a line for everyone else? I would rather do reserve. Would I even have that option?
I have been junior (in a base where RSV goes senior) and tried to bid reserve once and the reasons report said "max reserve lines met" or something like that.
Old 09-05-2014 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
It's all about unity and how the company views pilot sympathies. If only 30% of the pilots bother to fill out the survey the company is going to assume the pilots are satisfied with the status quo. Just as we have to put together a negotiating position management also must go through the same exercise. The degree of pilot unification and activity in the union they see will influence their budget for a new contract.
Why reveal those numbers? Just keep them secret. We don't want to show our cards.
Old 09-05-2014 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
It's all about unity and how the company views pilot sympathies. If only 30% of the pilots bother to fill out the survey the company is going to assume the pilots are satisfied with the status quo. Just as we have to put together a negotiating position management also must go through the same exercise. The degree of pilot unification and activity in the union they see will influence their budget for a new contract.

This seems to be a no-brainer. People more or less content with the status-quo will be much less likely to fill out a survey.

I would hope all Pilots will fill out the survey. But guys, keep in mind a survey is just that - a survey. Even if everyone puts down that we want a 50% raise on day one that does not mean it will happen.

Devils Advocate time: Since the survey results are not released - why should DALPA release the participation percentage? The exact same logic used not release the survey results could also be used not to release participation numbers.

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Old 09-05-2014 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop

Devils Advocate time: Since the survey results are not released - why should DALPA release the participation percentage? The exact same logic used not release the survey results could also be used not to release participation numbers.

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To take it a step further; if the participation rate is less than a number that shows unity, say 90% or more, revealing it could be seen as showing weakness. But that weakness could be buttressed by revealing what will very likely be a survey showing pilots demand a contract that reflects the value they feel they are providing to company's mission. To reveal the former in such a scenario and not the latter would be very disappointing, and hopefully prod survey participants to question why those in a position would make such a decision.
Old 09-05-2014 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Because some pilots have expressed a interest in flying them and their reps have asked. Should they be ignored? That is why you have a survey! If a majority of the pilots don't want them you move on and have it documented.
I know more than some pilots have expressed interest in restoration but I did not see anything in the survey about that. The percentage questions on DOS gives examples of no greater than 12%.

Just say'n

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