Originally Posted by PilotFrog

Anyone set up a personal side to the Surface tablet? If you did and want some more space on the OneDrive, you can get 100GB for two years for signing up for Bing rewards. 2-Years of 100GB OneDrive Storage

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL

You're serious?

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL

The man insists on PS equivalence to Pay which I reject.

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL

That's neither intellectual dishonesty or failing to man up.

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL

PS isn't compensation.

Originally Posted by ERflyer

Was it McCain, who is not exactly left-of-center, who coined the term "Wacko Birds"? And can it be used singular?

Originally Posted by shoelu

I don't know how else to put it to you. I have shown the contractual language that proves Profit Sharing is part of SWAPA's negotiated compensation package. It can not be removed without a replacement. They can call that replacement compensation "double secret extra special pay" for all I care, but the fact remains that Profit Sharing is a contractually mandated compensation that cannot be removed without a replacement. Which portion of that fact do you not understand?

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy

So you reject the notion of a PS equivalence to Pay, but you're adamant we should give up PS.

And you say PS isn't compensation. So you think we should just give up PS.

OK

Digesting......



Digesting...........


Uhhhhhhh, so if I'm following you, and maybe your mind is just on another level, like a Stephen Hawking level and I'm just a dumb pilot....but, ...... uhhhhh.....Ok...wait...let me....

Maybe I drank too much NyQuil, because I'm not quite following you.....

You think we should give up Profit Sharing, but for some evil genius reason that I'm incapable of figuring out, and you don't think there should be any increase in pay for it....(I think I'm catching on...light bulb is starting to flicker!)...Because, because...yeah, I got it...because PROFIT SHARING DOLLARS AREN'T COMPENSATION! Look at me! I'm in on the scheme....Yeah, Profit Sharing isn't compensation! No, no, we don't do something stupid like think we should give it up for something silly like pay rates...that would be foolhardy. We just get rid of it and refuse to put a number against what we think we should get in return. Holy S#!t you're a genius! Please tell me you're on the Negotiating Committee.

(Edit: Just woke up from my blissful numb minding, acid like euphoric, NyQuil induced state of clarity; you want to give it up for $5000 like you said a while back in your original manifesto about PS. The world is even clearer now....now I know what self-actualization is all about.)

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Any profit sharing givebacks/trades are self starters from the union. There are no indications that it is on the company's desire list as we are in line with most of the other company work groups.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

This is embarrassing.

Carl

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL

Really? Sarcasm? I've laid out my "manifesto" in broad strokes. Yes, I'd like to see C2K restored as a starter toward "Restoring the Profession". If we're in fact "Takin' it Back" it means presenting a pay scale that demands recognition of our skillset. PS is not part of that recognition. I believe that offering PS as a trade is a losing strategy because it plays into managements (and the NMB) position that PS is compensation. The idea that PS will never be as big a bargaining chip as it will be next week is real. If we squander that leverage we might as well lay the bet on if that's the case. And I've said that too in my letter to my reps.

As for the annuity, I know we're not getting a pension like C2K but I'd like to read our NC obtained a Annuity for EVERY pilot which might go so far as an additional 20K a year in retirement for a 30 year career. Maybe it runs out if you live to 90. So what? Its a good idea and it benefits ALL of us instead of just a few. I don't need it but it helps those who do.

PS is a big shiny box and its got an allure I give you that. But its a concession. Pure and simple. A concession we made to prevent a worse outcome. We need to fix that pronto.

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL

What's truly embarrassing Carl is the lengths you'll go to discrediting dissent and validating support for what has become a very profitable windfall for yourself.

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL

Its temporary, but whatever, right Carl?

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL

Its good for you.

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL

And someday as the cyclical nature of our profession proves, when PS is again ZERO you'll have yours and rally the empty handed troops with anti ALPA slogans and sentiment.