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Old 02-08-2015 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
actually, I have had both management and ALPA tell me we are above the industry average.
Next time ask them how they know what the industry average is. As in, when did American, United, FedEx, JetBlue, SWA, etc reveal their sick time-usage rates? Who's the keeper of this info and where is it listed? Where are our rates listed?

My dog told me we're below industry standards and I should stay home with him when I'm sick instead of flying. Since he can't use the mouse very well I decided not to verify his data and take him at his woof.

Old 02-08-2015 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Next time ask them how they know what the industry average is. As in, when did American, United, FedEx, JetBlue, SWA, etc reveal their sick time-usage rates? Who's the keeper of this info and where is it listed? Where are our rates listed?

My dog told me we're below industry standards and I should stay home with him when I'm sick instead of flying. Since he can't use the mouse very well I decided not to verify his data and take him at his woof.

Nice. Made me laugh.
Old 02-08-2015 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Doubtful, the 3 that were parked were returned at the end of their leases. They were not owned by Delta. Someone said they are razor blades already but that seems quick. I suppose if they are still flyable we could release them but it seems unlikely.
I don't see any DAL 74s in any easily accessible pics but hopefully we won't see them chopped up just yet, anyways, check this out

A) Our 717s to be:



I guess those will be the ones most likely to end a 10 degree left turn when you pull out the speed brakes.

BTW, who flies them from there to IND to get refurbed?

B) And all the MD-11s

Old 02-08-2015 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Doubtful, the 3 that were parked were returned at the end of their leases. They were not owned by Delta. Someone said they are razor blades already but that seems quick. I suppose if they are still flyable we could release them but it seems unlikely.
I heard the same rumor on them coming back...... As for razor blades I doubt that as SH's memos referencing these aircraft indicate otherwise.
Old 02-08-2015 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
We can argue about the reasons, but the fact remains that Delta pilots sick out at a rate way above the industry average.
You've no idea what you're talking about. None. Completely made up.

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Old 02-08-2015 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
That's the first thing I thought of when this sick verification policy came out. It's a slap to every pilot's integrity - we're called liars unless a doctor says that we're telling the truth. Given the level of responsibility we have I think it's absurd.
I cannot agree more. At the time my primary doc was also my AME, he was appalled that Delta was asking this of us. His point was that we are responsible for hundreds of lives along with a multi-million dollar machine, yet our company wants verification of my illness. He brought up HIPAA and that it is poor of the company not to trust us.

A few months later I am on MIL leave for a couple of months. During that time I get a bad head cold. I felt not my best, but that I could get through the day, so I went into work the next duty day. After I got there, I was told to go home until I was well so I did not get everyone one else on the floor sick. They did not say that I needed to go to sick call that day and see the flight doc, just to go home, get better, and if you are still sick in the next 2 days, go see the doc for meds.

Bottom line for me is we are not working a 9-5 desk job. We operate a big complex machine, and if there is an incident no matter if it is minor or major and they find you are self medicating or not at the level you should be to operate the machine, you WILL be held responsible and pay accordingly. Depending what happends, this might be losing your job or possibly jail time. That is the way I look at it in today's new world. I was once not this jaded, it just takes one instance of you or a friend to change your mind. I just hope Delta gets a clue on sick leave and stops punishing the 97% for 3% I have heard are abusing the system. It is probably the same 3% that helped create the MIL leave log that we must now fill out on the company holiday "black out" dates.

But then again for the bean counters, it comes down to money for the shareholders. They just never think what it would do to the company, God forbid, if we have a bad accident, so do not let it happen. If you are sick, please call in sick and break the chain!
Old 02-09-2015 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Woah, woah, woah.

I thought the money was supposed to go to pro-pilot individuals.

Because "pro-labor" could mean "pro-Boeing worker", which could mean "pro Ex-Im Bank," which is most certainly NOT "pro-pilot."

So which is it?
Let's not twist the truth here.

ALPA PAC is not supporting the Export-Import Bank and this is something you as well as everyone else is well aware of.

ALPA PAC is directly trying to save YOUR job from the many external threats that exist. Gulf carriers, Ex-Im Bank, cabatoge, and Norwegian Airlines are but a few of the threats.

Instead of twisting the truth, okay - outright lying - how about if you get onboard and support ALPA PAC. At least through some minimum financial support you can support our profession instead of - through ignorance - attempt to tear it down.
Old 02-09-2015 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You're half right. ALPA PAC money goes to pro-far left liberal democrats who run for office. The evidence is overwhelming if you look at the non-incumbent list.

If your wish is to reshape the legislative branch with far left liberals in every election, then the ALPA PAC is a great place to send your money.

Carl
See my post above. Also, stop being so worried about the left-right thing. It doesn't exist in regard to where ALPA PAC money goes.

ALPA PAC is supporting you and your profession. Period. By not supporting, or worse - attacking ALPA PAC - you are as bad a threat to our profession as any external threat. Good job.

I'm not trying to be mean-spirited here but when someone is being obtuse and self-destructive I have to point it out.
Old 02-09-2015 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by S3toHerk
Rumor: With gas prices cheap and more military charters, Delta is pulling some of the 747s out of the desert. Any truth?
Nada, zippo, none.........
Old 02-09-2015 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
actually, I have had both management and ALPA tell me we are above the industry average.
This is not the first time we have been accused of leading the industry in sick leave usage. I think it was around 2000 or so and we got a memo from Charlie Tut (I think?) titled "Plain talk on sick leave" or something similiar. At that time, we were supposedly 9 percent over the other majors. I don't remember exactly what metric they were using. I remember the numbers were disputable.
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