Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-10-2015, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Furthermore, our reps specifically directed the NC to not touch profit sharing. The NC did it anyway. That's the rub.
Carl
He heard wrong. That is 100 percent untrue.
Now that being said, I have no doubt that the reason the conference call went down as it did was to make sure that if there was no clear consensus to trade it, to make sure there also wasn't official "direction" so as to give the NC the flexibility needed to make the deal.
Although Carl is wrong, the way it was handled was just as as bad in my mind as if they had gone against specific direction from the MEC.
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Furthermore, our reps specifically directed the NC to not touch profit sharing. The NC did it anyway. That's the rub.
Carl
Originally Posted by Reroute
Carl, where did you hear or read that?
Now that being said, I have no doubt that the reason the conference call went down as it did was to make sure that if there was no clear consensus to trade it, to make sure there also wasn't official "direction" so as to give the NC the flexibility needed to make the deal.
Although Carl is wrong, the way it was handled was just as as bad in my mind as if they had gone against specific direction from the MEC.
02-10-2015, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja
Any details of what was offered or wanted?
Baja.
Baja.
1st yr FO $320/hr
Unlimited sick leave and free health insurance for life
Positive space passes anytime a pilot gets on dal affiliated metal
100% fae retirement in your name after 3 years of service
Company provided massage service in every hub pilot lounge
Free gasoline for life
Profit sharing removed.
The MEC said the pilots didn't want to give up profit sharing so they shot it down.
02-10-2015, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
33 House GOP members joined in writing a letter to Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx this past June urging him to reject the NAI bid, yet some of these members were not supported by the PAC. If the PAC were not concerned with which party a congressman was affiliated, it would seem supporting every single one of these 33 would be helpful to our cause.
02-10-2015, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Parking every fleet and replacing them all with 777-300s
1st yr FO $320/hr
Unlimited sick leave and free health insurance for life
Positive space passes anytime a pilot gets on dal affiliated metal
100% fae retirement in your name after 3 years of service
Company provided massage service in every hub pilot lounge
Free gasoline for life
Profit sharing removed.
The MEC said the pilots didn't want to give up profit sharing so they shot it down.
1st yr FO $320/hr
Unlimited sick leave and free health insurance for life
Positive space passes anytime a pilot gets on dal affiliated metal
100% fae retirement in your name after 3 years of service
Company provided massage service in every hub pilot lounge
Free gasoline for life
Profit sharing removed.
The MEC said the pilots didn't want to give up profit sharing so they shot it down.
Now wait just a minute. What do you mean profit sharing removed?
320/hr x 87 credit hours a month x 12 = $334, 000. You're taking 17% more away from me.
Total B.S. This makes me mad. I'm going to go set something on fire in the backyard and then drive up and down the street honking my horn. I'm so mad.
Wait? The MEC shot it down? Well, what the hell??? Without going to memory rat? That's just BS, they should have let us decide on that. What if we end up with some low wage with PS and never get to 320/hr? This makes me so mad. I'm just really gonna lay in on that horn.
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02-10-2015, 05:32 AM
seeing the large hubs...
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Yes, and it is cumalitive.
02-10-2015, 05:32 AM
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As far as comparing us to OAL on sick leave, I have a question.
If I bang in sick for a 5 day trip because I'm sick for the first 2 days, and then there is nothing in open time to pick up so I just eat up the entire 5, then I'm out 28 hours-ish. So my one sick call was 5 days and 28 hours.
But over at Brand X airlines they may not even have 5 day trips. Maybe more 2 days. And if they're sick for the same amount of days, 2, then they may only be gone 2 days and 10 hours, I'm double that.
So at USAIR, Merican and UCAL, what is an average day pay? And what is an average domestic and separately international trip in days and hours?
Maybe we need to be relegated to 2 day trips, 3 max, and international is... 3 and maybe 4 at the max. Then sick leave won't be as expensive.
We just need shorter trips.
If I bang in sick for a 5 day trip because I'm sick for the first 2 days, and then there is nothing in open time to pick up so I just eat up the entire 5, then I'm out 28 hours-ish. So my one sick call was 5 days and 28 hours.
But over at Brand X airlines they may not even have 5 day trips. Maybe more 2 days. And if they're sick for the same amount of days, 2, then they may only be gone 2 days and 10 hours, I'm double that.
So at USAIR, Merican and UCAL, what is an average day pay? And what is an average domestic and separately international trip in days and hours?
Maybe we need to be relegated to 2 day trips, 3 max, and international is... 3 and maybe 4 at the max. Then sick leave won't be as expensive.
We just need shorter trips.
02-10-2015, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Parking every fleet and replacing them all with 777-300s
1st yr FO $320/hr
Unlimited sick leave and free health insurance for life
Positive space passes anytime a pilot gets on dal affiliated metal
100% fae retirement in your name after 3 years of service
Company provided massage service in every hub pilot lounge
Free gasoline for life
Profit sharing removed.
The MEC said the pilots didn't want to give up profit sharing so they shot it down.
1st yr FO $320/hr
Unlimited sick leave and free health insurance for life
Positive space passes anytime a pilot gets on dal affiliated metal
100% fae retirement in your name after 3 years of service
Company provided massage service in every hub pilot lounge
Free gasoline for life
Profit sharing removed.
The MEC said the pilots didn't want to give up profit sharing so they shot it down.
02-10-2015, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
My source says the TA has already been reached. But it got shot down. By an rpg. Dead bodies in floating down the street.
02-10-2015, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
actually, I have had both management and ALPA tell me we are above the industry average.
02-10-2015, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tim123
So 1 person told you that we are above industry average,and we are suppose to take it for gospel?
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