Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-09-2015 | 03:51 PM
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
I propose the ALPA SAC (for members that still have a pair
). The ALPA SAC would support conservative politicians who believe in larger liberty and smaller government. Then we could both make our "pilot partisan" cases to our respective legislators. Competition!
Carl
). The ALPA SAC would support conservative politicians who believe in larger liberty and smaller government. Then we could both make our "pilot partisan" cases to our respective legislators. Competition!Carl
I'd join the SAC's equivilent of the Behncke Circle tonight!
I'd like to order a "My SAC Speaks for Me" bag tag.
02-09-2015 | 04:19 PM
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So you reject the notion of a PS equivalence to Pay, but you're adamant we should give up PS.
And you say PS isn't compensation. So you think we should just give up PS.
OK
Digesting......
Digesting...........
Uhhhhhhh, so if I'm following you, and maybe your mind is just on another level, like a Stephen Hawking level and I'm just a dumb pilot....but, ...... uhhhhh.....Ok...wait...let me....
Maybe I drank too much NyQuil, because I'm not quite following you.....
You think we should give up Profit Sharing, but for some evil genius reason that I'm incapable of figuring out, and you don't think there should be any increase in pay for it....(I think I'm catching on...light bulb is starting to flicker!)...Because, because...yeah, I got it...because PROFIT SHARING DOLLARS AREN'T COMPENSATION! Look at me! I'm in on the scheme....Yeah, Profit Sharing isn't compensation! No, no, we don't do something stupid like think we should give it up for something silly like pay rates...that would be foolhardy. We just get rid of it and refuse to put a number against what we think we should get in return. Holy S#!t you're a genius! Please tell me you're on the Negotiating Committee.
(Edit: Just woke up from my blissful numb minding, acid like euphoric, NyQuil induced state of clarity; you want to give it up for $5000 like you said a while back in your original manifesto about PS. The world is even clearer now....now I know what self-actualization is all about.)
And you say PS isn't compensation. So you think we should just give up PS.
OK
Digesting......
Digesting...........
Uhhhhhhh, so if I'm following you, and maybe your mind is just on another level, like a Stephen Hawking level and I'm just a dumb pilot....but, ...... uhhhhh.....Ok...wait...let me....
Maybe I drank too much NyQuil, because I'm not quite following you.....
You think we should give up Profit Sharing, but for some evil genius reason that I'm incapable of figuring out, and you don't think there should be any increase in pay for it....(I think I'm catching on...light bulb is starting to flicker!)...Because, because...yeah, I got it...because PROFIT SHARING DOLLARS AREN'T COMPENSATION! Look at me! I'm in on the scheme....Yeah, Profit Sharing isn't compensation! No, no, we don't do something stupid like think we should give it up for something silly like pay rates...that would be foolhardy. We just get rid of it and refuse to put a number against what we think we should get in return. Holy S#!t you're a genius! Please tell me you're on the Negotiating Committee.
(Edit: Just woke up from my blissful numb minding, acid like euphoric, NyQuil induced state of clarity; you want to give it up for $5000 like you said a while back in your original manifesto about PS. The world is even clearer now....now I know what self-actualization is all about.)
As for the annuity, I know we're not getting a pension like C2K but I'd like to read our NC obtained a Annuity for EVERY pilot which might go so far as an additional 20K a year in retirement for a 30 year career. Maybe it runs out if you live to 90. So what? Its a good idea and it benefits ALL of us instead of just a few. I don't need it but it helps those who do.
PS is a big shiny box and its got an allure I give you that. But its a concession. Pure and simple. A concession we made to prevent a worse outcome. We need to fix that pronto.
02-09-2015 | 04:37 PM
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From: Light Chop
Supposedly the company is saying PS and scope will remain untouched in C2015. We shall see, but that would make sense. Sure they hate writing out that check PS but they only have to write it out if they have cash.
Kind of like having a car payment that you only have to make if you make more than you spent. That's a good deal.
Kind of like having a car payment that you only have to make if you make more than you spent. That's a good deal.
02-09-2015 | 04:50 PM
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Who's we Hixdog? Is it the same DALPA Echo chamber "we" that purposely distorts what people say in the hopes to portray them as too unreasonable to be listened to? It's old and tired Hixdog. I've stated on many occasions where I think ALPA has excelled.
They do indeed give to both sides...but overwhelmingly in favor of far left liberal democrats. It's a plainly sophomoric strategy when the side you didn't support is in power...and now you want them to protect OUR jobs.
See above. You're obviuously wed to the strategy of trying to maximize participation from conservative pilots to give money to liberal democrats by falsely claiming to be "pilot partisan." I don't know if it makes you feel better or not, but I couldn't keep up the charade the way you do.
Carl
Carl
02-09-2015 | 04:54 PM
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Really? Sarcasm? I've laid out my "manifesto" in broad strokes. Yes, I'd like to see C2K restored as a starter toward "Restoring the Profession". If we're in fact "Takin' it Back" it means presenting a pay scale that demands recognition of our skillset. PS is not part of that recognition. I believe that offering PS as a trade is a losing strategy because it plays into managements (and the NMB) position that PS is compensation. The idea that PS will never be as big a bargaining chip as it will be next week is real. If we squander that leverage we might as well lay the bet on if that's the case. And I've said that too in my letter to my reps.
As for the annuity, I know we're not getting a pension like C2K but I'd like to read our NC obtained a Annuity for EVERY pilot which might go so far as an additional 20K a year in retirement for a 30 year career. Maybe it runs out if you live to 90. So what? Its a good idea and it benefits ALL of us instead of just a few. I don't need it but it helps those who do.
PS is a big shiny box and its got an allure I give you that. But its a concession. Pure and simple. A concession we made to prevent a worse outcome. We need to fix that pronto.
As for the annuity, I know we're not getting a pension like C2K but I'd like to read our NC obtained a Annuity for EVERY pilot which might go so far as an additional 20K a year in retirement for a 30 year career. Maybe it runs out if you live to 90. So what? Its a good idea and it benefits ALL of us instead of just a few. I don't need it but it helps those who do.
PS is a big shiny box and its got an allure I give you that. But its a concession. Pure and simple. A concession we made to prevent a worse outcome. We need to fix that pronto.
Fair enough. I don't agree with you, but I see some of your points.
I disagree that PS will not be as big a bargaining chip as it will this year. I think it will be even bigger next year (for most); a higher % at least.
I think that's why we need to leave it alone until we're done with this PWA negotiation.
I'd also prefer to take it in a straight up pay increase. My number: 20% for openers and 15% minimum when the NC walks away from the table.
02-09-2015 | 04:56 PM
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From: 747-400 Captain
Of course you do.
Carl
02-09-2015 | 05:02 PM
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Regardless, the salient point here is that prior to profit sharing being reduced in C2012, there were NO indications that it was on the company's desire list. Furthermore, our reps specifically directed the NC to not touch profit sharing. The NC did it anyway. That's the rub.
Carl
02-09-2015 | 05:09 PM
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I don't know how else to put it to you. I have shown the contractual language that proves Profit Sharing is part of SWAPA's negotiated compensation package. It can not be removed without a replacement. They can call that replacement compensation "double secret extra special pay" for all I care, but the fact remains that Profit Sharing is a contractually mandated compensation that cannot be removed without a replacement. Which portion of that fact do you not understand?
Carl
02-09-2015 | 05:14 PM
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Anyone set up a personal side to the Surface tablet? If you did and want some more space on the OneDrive, you can get 100GB for two years for signing up for Bing rewards. 2-Years of 100GB OneDrive Storage
02-09-2015 | 05:14 PM
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[QUOTE=Roadkill;1822394]Will the EFB surface tablet run a Microsoft excel 2007 file?
Also, I can't figure out this charging... first the tablet charges and THEN the KB, IF you have the tablet on? What if the sleep/screen saver on tablet has kicked in, does the KB charge?
I keep plugging it in, on, and leaving it, never have reasonable charge. Then when I DO check and see 100% charged, I turn it off and don't touch it, a week later I turn it on and it's 17% charged!! What's happening to the power, how to I get this turd to keep itself charged for a trip?
Thx, sorry such a newb on this but don't have a DVD/CD player right now to watch that training CD they sent me.
THX[/QUO
Go to the secure contnt locker>Tablet help>Best practices. It goes into great detail about how the batteries charge/discharge. It will also tell you how to download your Flightplan from I-crew mobile to your tablet along with lots of other good tips.
Scoop
Also, I can't figure out this charging... first the tablet charges and THEN the KB, IF you have the tablet on? What if the sleep/screen saver on tablet has kicked in, does the KB charge?
I keep plugging it in, on, and leaving it, never have reasonable charge. Then when I DO check and see 100% charged, I turn it off and don't touch it, a week later I turn it on and it's 17% charged!! What's happening to the power, how to I get this turd to keep itself charged for a trip?
Thx, sorry such a newb on this but don't have a DVD/CD player right now to watch that training CD they sent me.
THX[/QUO
Go to the secure contnt locker>Tablet help>Best practices. It goes into great detail about how the batteries charge/discharge. It will also tell you how to download your Flightplan from I-crew mobile to your tablet along with lots of other good tips.
Scoop
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