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Old 09-17-2014 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by flyerc90
Experts: Using PB days, it was my understanding that in the past, upon getting a reg line, a pilot could use a banked PB day to drop a trip, and then pick it back up on the very same pcs run since drops run before pickups. (as long as no one senior had a blanket WS in and would get the newly dropped trip).

Is this still possible? Or did the rules change with an LOA awhile ago? The same LOA that changed "trip parking." If I did this on a noon PCS run, can I pick up the dropped trip at noon? Or do I have to wait till the 1700 run?
I'll preface this by saying take a look at the Scheduling Reference Handbook about page 60+. It will tell you about PB days and how to use them.

That being said, I'm pretty sure that any trip or portion of a trip dropped with PB days is considered pay AND credit. Take a look at your max pick up at the bottom of your schedule. If it says you have enough room to pick it up before you use the PB days, you will have it afterwards. The tricky part is if you only drop part of the trip and how that affects your max pick up. I ran into this max pick up problem a month ago. I was legal FAR 117 wise but my max pick up prevented me from white slipping a trip. (I had used payback days to drop a couple trips.)

I'm not sure about picking it back up on the same PCS run. Never tried it.

Good luck!

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Old 09-17-2014 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Boeing doesn't care about us at all. They are too buzy laundering US consumer and taxpayer money through ME middlemen due to intentionally failed energy policy and our leading role in providing a global police state.

Whoa. Care to expand on that a little?
Old 09-17-2014 | 08:29 AM
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Thanks Scambo and Denny, I will take those thoughts into account. My main concern was dropping the 2day ( i have 2 PB days) and then not being able to get it again if it had to sit in the pot for 5hrs for all to see, and someone senior getting it on the next run.
Old 09-17-2014 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I kind of agree, I don't think it's a barometer of the pilot group, just a barometer of the pilots who are paying attention.
A barometer of the 20 or so people that comment on here. 20/12083 * 100 = .165% so if it were up to 30 people commenting on here then 30/12083 * 100 = .248%. Don't even know what kind of drop that is in some size bucket.
Old 09-17-2014 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
So I am sitting at the gate reading the contract survey document from the union, look up to see a MD90 taxi by on the ramp with two fire trucks following it, look back down and continue laughing at the survey.

Life is entertaining.
Compressor stall on #2 on takeoff. My mx buddy was there in Atl. Said it was fun with Obama being there and all.
Old 09-17-2014 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Harley
The fact that this order seems to keep moving to later in the year tells me that it will be a part of our C2015 contract, i.e., we'll order not just 50 WB's but 100 WB's if the pilots agree to the company's early C2015 offer.
Completely agree. The order is going to be a part of the 2015 package. I halfway thought about this back when we signed a 3 year deal on the last contract. They knew then the widebody order would be lining up right on time for this contract.
Old 09-17-2014 | 08:51 AM
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If these routes do well, then we'll see the 717 LA base all of us west coasters would like to see.
Old 09-17-2014 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Maddoggin
Completely agree. The order is going to be a part of the 2015 package. I halfway thought about this back when we signed a 3 year deal on the last contract. They knew then the widebody order would be lining up right on time for this contract.
So how will it be structured? Will we have as a part of our contract the requirement for the company to buy airplanes within XX amount of time? Or will we take a smaller pay increase with the company's promise to buy more airplanes within XX amount of time? Or maybe... just maybe...

I think we should take a 10% pay cut if the company promises they will buy 100 777s. We don't need any time frame, or any penalties if they don't do so. Just think of all the movement that will occur.... and since bigger pays more, it is a win win deal.
Old 09-17-2014 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
If these routes do well, then we'll see the 717 LA base all of us west coasters would like to see.
They already did the NYC base though.
Old 09-17-2014 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
A barometer of the 20 or so people that comment on here. 20/12083 * 100 = .165% so if it were up to 30 people commenting on here then 30/12083 * 100 = .248%. Don't even know what kind of drop that is in some size bucket.
The average polling company uses a sample size of 2500 voters to determine what 220 million eligible voters would do. So it's a .000011.

So you have a larger sample size here, so you can use this group here to figure out how the next contract will go. You just have to weight it.

I'll explain, if you take all of the pilots who post here, take into account their C2012 votes and the actual votes, grab the nearest sextant and MDM and ask yourself did the NC reach a TA?

Pass.

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