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Old 09-30-2014 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifereserver
Does anyone know the rule for sliding a vacation toward a major holiday? Can the slid vacation only be within one day or two days of the holiday? Specifically, I am trying to slide an early Nov vacation to later in the month. Where is this info? I can't find it in the vacation section of the PWA.
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There is no limit as to where you can slide your vacation, as long as you are senior enough to 'hold' the slide you are asking for. Every year since the Slide was enacted, I have been able to slide my vacations over both Thanksgiving and Christmas/New Years.

As the bids are run, a stack of unwanted trips will develop over those holidays. If you are about half way up regular lines in your category, you should be able to slide over the holidays. I. e. if you could hold the holiday off in a regular bid, you should also be able to slide your vacation over it. Or if you really want some more time off and you are senior enough, you could slide your vacation to a few days before/after the holiday, then bid (and hold) the holiday off too. (and then green slip over the holiday)

But if you are JUNIOR in your category, and you cannot hold it off, or you would have been 'unstacked' into a trip over the holiday, it won't let you slide your vacation over that holiday, as the stack is getting too high at that point and everyone remaining is going to get 'unstacked' into a trip over the holiday.

Bottom line; "It Depends". Mostly on how senior you are in category, and how your category is staffed. Call the Bid Assist guys and they can give you more gouge on vacation slide and trying to avoid working on T-Day or X-Mas.
Old 09-30-2014 | 09:04 AM
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Pardon my laziness ...

What is the window for bidding vacation slides?
Old 09-30-2014 | 09:12 AM
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Pardon my laziness as well...

Can you slide a vacation that starts in one month and carries to another?
Old 09-30-2014 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Pardon my laziness ...

What is the window for bidding vacation slides?
You bid your slide in the same month you have vacation, as part of your normal line bid. Look up at the top of the PBS bidding page, there is a drop box called "Condition". Click on that and there are several selections, one of which is 'slide vacation' then you put in the number of days (+ means later in month, - means earlier in month) that you want to slide it, you can even put in a range of days, like "10 to 5" days, so if it can't do all 10, it will try to slide it 9, then 8.
Old 09-30-2014 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
Pardon my laziness as well...

Can you slide a vacation that starts in one month and carries to another?
I'm not sure about that, call the bid assist guys and ask, or call the DL MEC and ask for a scheduling guy.

I do know that if 100% of your vacation is in one month, you cannot slide it partially into a later month.
Old 09-30-2014 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
2. 219 I'll go with that number.... plus how many new captains due to retirements, that will come out of the 700 (Sailing meant to say "first time captains" not "new captains"... There is a distinct difference.

3. LSU sucks. WDE.
Yes, that number is in the 770 range if you count those who left and the new Captains added. But if you do that then eventually, two decades or so but hopefully less, we can say C2012 caused 12,000 new Captains.

Our O-line needs to get it's act together or we might be mad Saturday night. WCE.
Old 09-30-2014 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
Pardon my laziness as well...

Can you slide a vacation that starts in one month and carries to another?
Sort of. Several months ago more improvements were added to PBS. For vacations that start in one month and carry over, you can slide the portion of the vacation that is in the current month only.

Then, a month later when bidding again, if you so wished, you could then slide the remaining days in the second month to wherever you wished.

I hate to give out this advice, because the word will spread...but oh well.

Use one week of vacation bidding to bid a June/July spillover vacation, or Nov/Dec--or both. Then buy days from your vacation bank in March (you can buy up to 10 days). Append these days on either side of your vacations, slide as necessary, and voila, you have a June and July vacation for the price of one bid, and you have a Thanksgiving and Christmas vacation for the price of one bid week.

Pretty slick eh? Your (DALPA) PBS committee has spent years tweaking and improving the system. Some of this takes contractual language to boot, but the bottom line is that our bidding options keep getting better and better.
Old 09-30-2014 | 09:47 AM
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Thanks, Timbo for the thorough answer!! Much appreciated!
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Old 09-30-2014 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Yes, that number is in the 770 range if you count those who left and the new Captains added. But if you do that then eventually, two decades or so but hopefully less, we can say C2012 caused 12,000 new Captains.

Our O-line needs to get it's act together or we might be mad Saturday night. WCE.
I don't think C2012 "caused" any CA slots (yet)... AFAIK, the rumored alternate plan for DAL consisted of around 40 A-319's/717's. It's the next 40ish that are where the supposed gains come from. YMMV, it's in the past, and we are less than 6 months from opening with a much better starting position.

Yeah, and the linebackers need to get healthy.... Just when you thought losing Carl Lawson for the majority of the season was bad. WDE.
Old 09-30-2014 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I'm not sure about that, call the bid assist guys and ask, or call the DL MEC and ask for a scheduling guy.

I do know that if 100% of your vacation is in one month, you cannot slide it partially into a later month.
Im pretty sure that a slide has to be within a calendar month. Iow, it can't sit on two bid periods.

Another thing to consider with the slide. If you aren't senior enough to hold a holiday off as a line holder, perhaps you can hold it off with reserve. The last couple of years this was always my fall back position. I'd ask off what I wanted "slide+5" with days off XXX. Else start next bid res and then slide. I've always gotten what I asked for, sometimes just had to bid res to get it.
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