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Check Essential 10-14-2014 11:12 AM

Here's my dance video for today:


georgetg 10-14-2014 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1746055)
Aren't these things financed? Depending on the terms, at some point they'd need to be returned to the lessors IN ONE PIECE or purchased outright, am I correct?

Air India's fleet is nearly 97% financed.
But wait, the US made jets in that fleet are not just financed, but financed by the ExIm bank ;-)


...a lower court decision in July 2012 that determined that Ex-Im Bank properly approved financing for purchases of certain Boeing aircraft by Air India...
more: Appeals Court Decision Rejects Delta Request for Invalidation of Ex-Im Bank Air India Transactions
BTW, Top loss making routes for Air India are BOM-JFK and BOM-EWR.

Cheers
George

flyallnite 10-14-2014 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1746134)
Air India's fleet is nearly 97% financed.
But wait, the US made jets in that fleet are not just financed, but financed by the ExIm bank ;-)


BTW, Top loss making routes for Air India are BOM-JFK and BOM-EWR.

Cheers
George

Funny how all that worked out. There's an article out now about how the the preclearance facility in the M.E. that we lobbied against is actually causing huge headaches for Etihad. It seems our CBP people are doing a typically crappy job and causing massive flight delays an operational problems... Less than 1% of the flights to LAX are on time... "Hi, I'm from The Government and I'm here to help!":eek:

scambo1 10-14-2014 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1746134)
Air India's fleet is nearly 97% financed.
But wait, the US made jets in that fleet are not just financed, but financed by the ExIm bank ;-)


BTW, Top loss making routes for Air India are BOM-JFK and BOM-EWR.

Cheers
George

George,

I'm not questioning if you are wrong or right on the top loss making routes for air India, but I'm pretty sure the real reason we pulled down was jet airways... How do we make that route work for us because I'd fly it happily until I was in diapers again.:eek:

My understanding is that Jet Airways pulled out of JFK. I don't know how air India is losing it's hide without competition.

NuGuy 10-14-2014 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1745901)
Thanks for the input. I've hated UHC with a raw, unbridled passion ever since my wife stopped working, which took us away from the relative safety of BCBS, in to the clutches of the UHC beast.

I ALSO hate the math under the Gold HRA, and I find having to trade privacy for the full HRA to be abhorrent.

So, I'm not really happy, and thinking hard about the DPMP.

My question is this: other than having different deductibles, and premiums, is there any difference in the way UHC approves or disapproves procedures under the DPMP. For example, do you have to deal with Optum when using your chiroprator?

Heyas Sink,

I can't intelligently answer those questions...

The approval/disapproval process has always been handled by my Drs/Surgeons, so I don't know how that works. They put in the request and it got approved is all I know. Even the relatively new technique they used for some surgery got approved within a week.

I don't go to a chiropractor, now or in the past, so no idea.

Rxs are handled by my local chain drugstore. I drop off the paper, they give me the meds. I had some goop in the past that I had to get from a formulary pharmacy (hah! try to find one of those these days), which is a pharmacy that blends custom stuff. Paid no problem at all w/ standard copayment.

But understand that I have (at the moment, at least) no ongoing medical concerns or med requirements. Other than intermittent,one off issues, I'm fairly low MX. I can't speak to issues with wives, kids, or long term chronic issues.

Nu

georgetg 10-14-2014 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1746160)
George,

I'm not questioning if you are wrong or right on the top loss making routes for air India, but I'm pretty sure the real reason we pulled down was jet airways... How do we make that route work for us because I'd fly it happily until I was in diapers again.:eek:

My understanding is that Jet Airways pulled out of JFK. I don't know how air India is losing it's hide without competition.

That was exactly the point.
  • Air India is/was using dumping prices to maintain their "flagship" route at all costs.
  • Ironically they even can't make money with subsidized loans for the planes on these routes.
  • They can't even afford parts, so they cannibalize some of the aircraft they have.
Air India is losing money on routes with subsidized jets
Not only that but they chose to idle some of these subsidized jet for parts to keep the rest of the fleet flying.
That's a pretty strong indication on how "cheap" the acquisition of these jets is for Air India.

Clearly normal market forces aren't at play here.

If you want to dig:
Air india loses money on all but two flights

Cheers
George

Justdoinmyjob 10-14-2014 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by trlaketige (Post 1746077)
I think you meant a snarling pack of N. Korean generals on a fallen dog!

Tr

I think he was referring to KimJong Un feeding his uncle to a pack of wild dogs.

badflaps 10-14-2014 01:32 PM

Unless you can show some kind of bone tangle, they pay the chiro-prator $36 bucks a visit, up to 10 visits a year. Maybe more now, since it has been a while. $12.50 for drugs up from $10. Under normal circumstances you never get near the out of pocket.

Carl Spackler 10-14-2014 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by trlaketige (Post 1746077)
I think you meant a snarling pack of N. Korean generals on a fallen dog!

Tr

Now that right there is funny!

Carl

EdGrimley 10-14-2014 01:56 PM

A little off the topic...OK let's be honest there is no topic here.... I price checked several flights for some friends via Priceline, Cheaptickets.com etc and American is getting aggressive coming in lower in price than Delta and others on routes out of NYC, SFO and Las Vegas. This was not a scientific based however.

Watching what AA is doing taking delivery of many new airframes (including widebodies), adding routes, etc. it seems they are a force to be reckoned with. I think it is genius Delta is paying down debt which will allow them to easily afford the restoration raises for C2015 but a little concerned about their ability to compete airframe wise. Will replacing 767's with A330's allow Delta to compete with AA in ameaningful way?


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