You can go on right now and buy insurance regardless of your income. You get "discounts" based on your income. I could quit Delta right now and go buy insurance that is comparable to what Delta offers for 2015. I put in $200,000 as my annual income and could purchase a plan almost identical to the Silver HSA option available in 2015 for $715 per month. I haven't looked into the income levels and where the discounts kick in, but $715 per month is a lot cheaper than COBRA through Delta.

 

Yep, but just realize that if it were a 2 day that paid 16:11 someone would be on here complaining about it the next day.

Scoop

 

How is parking the 747s relevant to your point?

 

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The point is they know what the pilot costs will be next year.

 

They always know what pilot costs are going to be within a certain parameter. We have a contract. That's what contracts do... spell out costs. They biggest way they reduce overall costs is by reducing debt. The second is by fleet rationalization. That one is a dynamic process. In this cycle of airline growth, it is all about frequency... again, hence smaller fleets with longer legs...

And for those of you that back the bigger pays more scheme, how do you put a dollar figure on efficiency?

 

For sure they would.

my beef is with 117 to be honest, not really contract stuff.

 

I have never been so beat up, but now with 117--> being beat up is the norm..

Call your rep. Document pairings. Remember, its the FAAs doing not ALPA. In fact, I called DALPA scheduling and C. told me that he is receiving many calls from fatigued pilots. He told me to write my rep.

8+ hour domestic days are Brutal. I also think we need to have 30-32 days off AT HOME per 7 days. Layovers do not constitute rest to me. On the other hand, I look at the M88 lines and all I see are 4 leg days followed by 10-13 hour layos, ***!?

TEN

 

Another trick I see on the 73 now, about 15 trips in last bidpack, is this:
report at 0003; 2 day, release at 2359. Pays 10:30, but it's essentially a 4 day--everyone, even non commuter, has to modify his schedule on pre-departure day so they get rest then get to work; and same on day following trip, home at 0200ish even for drivers. For a commuter it's a solid 4 day now paying 10:30. If they're not doing this, then at least ONE of the days, start or finish, has this in it.

I know the LAX trips and understand how 15:45 looks better than 10:30... but here's another data point agreeing with launchpad, the new trip construction to MAKE those 15:45 3 days is VERY VERY painful for many folks, especially commuters (guys at bottom of list tend to be more commuter heavy of course).

I don't like sitting for 30 hrs not getting paid--best future plan would be a Daily Min Guarantee, not an average. However, despite what I THINK when I do my bidding and try for high-value trips, when it's time to fly the thing... I actually liked 1 leg to PHL at 1800 start, 31 hours, 1 leg back home and on my commuter flight home by 1100, for 10:30 to 12:30.

If my goal in life was to work as hard as possible, and I was willing to make my work-days always 16 hours slaving for my company away from home, there are a lot of options. Hard-work with loooooong workdays is nowhere near as good as reasonable workdays that let you have a more normalish life and time with family, hardwork during that reduced window, and getting paid EVERY DAY someone makes you not be home to go see your kid's school project.

Anyhoo, I guess I agree with you LAX guys on your bidpack (wow was it bad before), but as a lowerish guy at SLC I'm reporting the trips are not as nice; 0600 takeoff 3 legs for 8:37 block or so is killing me.

 

I'll play the devils advocate here. That trip would be my first choice if it was two or less long legs on days 1 and 3. 30 hour overnight for me is a slice of heaven. Don't get my wrong I love my wife and half dozen kids but this is my daddy's break while I'm working. I base my life on 65 hours a month, everything else is gravy. We ALWAYS spend what we make. My pay has doubled while I have been here and there is no excuse for ME that 65 isn't enough. So everyone wants something different.

That being said I will only vote for C2015 if it has a good chunk increase in my W2.

 

Speed, weight, seats