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AirCav 11-29-2014 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by 1Bob (Post 1772859)
Maybe you are just referring to DAL pilots and I should go back to minding my own business but just in case you are referring to Americans in general:

Real Median Household Income

2013 $52,250
2012 $52,117
2011 $52,306
2010 $53,469
2009 $54,541
2008 $56,290

source: US Household Income | Department of Numbers

Doing my final edit, I realized I should apologize. As Delta pilots, we are not used to using real data. ALPA doesn't __________ inflation so they always present nominal pay comparisons. So if you want to ignore inflation, 2008 and 2013 median household income were nearly identical.

I'm just say'n

Too bad you did not post the numbers from 2000 on or is that too inconvenient? While you are at it, post the unemployment, DJI and Gini Coefficient numbers...overlap any of those with federal tax legislation. Even better, post the numbers for the top 1% of Americans, our "job creators". Wealth redistribution began some time ago but it was from the middle class to the rich.

AC

Raging white 11-29-2014 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by 1Bob (Post 1772859)
Maybe you are just referring to DAL pilots and I should go back to minding my own business but just in case you are referring to Americans in general:

Real Median Household Income

2013 $52,250
2012 $52,117
2011 $52,306
2010 $53,469
2009 $54,541

2008 $56,290

source: US Household Income | Department of Numbers

Doing my final edit, I realized I should apologize. As Delta pilots, we are not used to using real data. ALPA doesn't __________ inflation so they always present nominal pay comparisons. So if you want to ignore inflation, 2008 and 2013 median household income were nearly identical.

I'm just say'n


Reminds me of the story of the New York Times editor who, after Nixon defeated McGovern in 49 of 50 states, responded "I don't know ANYBODY who voted for Nixon!"

It's all the company you keep.

newKnow 11-29-2014 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by 1Bob (Post 1772859)
Maybe you are just referring to DAL pilots and I should go back to minding my own business but just in case you are referring to Americans in general:

Real Median Household Income

2013 $52,250
2012 $52,117
2011 $52,306
2010 $53,469
2009 $54,541
2008 $56,290

source: US Household Income | Department of Numbers

Doing my final edit, I realized I should apologize. As Delta pilots, we are not used to using real data. ALPA doesn't __________ inflation so they always present nominal pay comparisons. So if you want to ignore inflation, 2008 and 2013 median household income were nearly identical.

I'm just say'n


Ha ha. Nevermind. If you think things were better when Obama took office, so be it. I wouldn't want to go back to those days though. :D

Schwanker 11-29-2014 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by biigD (Post 1772818)

That's a good girl...... just smile like a donut.

Carl Spackler 11-29-2014 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1772931)
Ha ha. Nevermind. If you think things were better when Obama took office, so be it. I wouldn't want to go back to those days though. :D

Neither would Putin.
Neither would Khameini.
Neither would Assad.
Neither would Kim Jong Un.
Neither would...well, you get the idea.

Carl

Carl Spackler 11-29-2014 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by AirCav (Post 1772893)
Too bad you did not post the numbers from 2000 on or is that too inconvenient? While you are at it, post the unemployment, DJI and Gini Coefficient numbers...overlap any of those with federal tax legislation.

Then show us the truth AirCav. I'll wait.


Originally Posted by AirCav (Post 1772893)
Even better, post the numbers for the top 1% of Americans, our "job creators".

If the top 1% isn't our job creators, who is? The government?


Originally Posted by AirCav (Post 1772893)
Wealth redistribution began some time ago but it was from the middle class to the rich.

You're confusing earning and distribution...a common mistake of the left wing. My earnings have gone up over the years. It wasn't "distributed" to me. I earned it by risk taking and winning more than I've lost. But I keep writing larger and larger quarterly checks to the IRS. I'm giving that to the government and they are distributing it to many people who haven't earned my money.

So which direction is that redistribution going again?

Carl

newKnow 11-29-2014 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1772947)
Neither would Putin.
Neither would Khameini.
Neither would Assad.
Neither would Kim Jong Un.
Neither would...well, you get the idea.

Carl


Ha ha. No I don't. Can you explain what you mean? ;)

Check Essential 11-29-2014 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1772433)
RES question. Coming off a mando 30 hr rest, am I required to check my schedule/answer phone during that 30 hrs. Also, can skeds place something on my schedule after that 30hrs without notifying me? (Rest ends at a 0030, can something be placed on schedule at 0030 or 1030 without a phone notification?)
I am SC full for the month.

FAR 117 30 hour rest is NOT the same as a regular X day. They can't require us to be aware of any duty that was not assigned BEFORE the 30 hours began.

The FAA says any obligation to check your schedule OR acknowledge duty breaks the rest.

Read Scenario #1 and the 2 questions:

[url]/http McFadden interpretation

If you haven't been assigned something before starting the 30 hours then you just go on long call at the end. There is no "Last non-fly day" 9 hours prior self notification type situation when it is FAA required rest.

iceman49 11-29-2014 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by 1Bob (Post 1772859)
Maybe you are just referring to DAL pilots and I should go back to minding my own business but just in case you are referring to Americans in general:

Real Median Household Income

2013 $52,250
2012 $52,117
2011 $52,306
2010 $53,469
2009 $54,541
2008 $56,290

source: US Household Income | Department of Numbers

Doing my final edit, I realized I should apologize. As Delta pilots, we are not used to using real data. ALPA doesn't __________ inflation so they always present nominal pay comparisons. So if you want to ignore inflation, 2008 and 2013 median household income were nearly identical.

I'm just say'n

https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/inco...cal/household/

Scottyr6 11-29-2014 05:23 PM

Looking to find a 747-200 1/100 scale NWA cargo. Anyone know where to find? 1/200 is easy but can't find 1/100. Thanks


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